UAP Nuclear Civic Crisis captures the full sweep of this hour with Peter Vazquez, Bob, and guest Indy Pederson.
The conversation moves from UAP disclosure, Patagonia, prophecy, and nuclear escalation to Iran's 14-point MOU, Obama-era diplomacy, Pelosi's critique, terror threats at home, Seattle's downtown decline, Rochester's $706.8 million budget, and the demand for sober civic leadership.
Beneath every topic is one warning: truth is being managed, power is protecting itself, and ordinary Americans are being asked to carry the cost.
UAP Nuclear Civic Crisis. There are hours when a nation does not simply debate policy. It reveals what it believes about truth, power, fear, and consequence.
This conversation begins in the strange space between the heavens and the halls of government, where unidentified anomalous phenomena are no longer only whispered about in the margins. Federal files are being released. Congressional hearings have forced the subject into daylight.
A June 2026 CBS News/YouGov poll found that 63% of Americans believe intelligent life exists beyond Earth, while 84% believe the government knows more about UFOs than it is telling the public. That number is not just about aliens. It is about trust. It is about citizens who have learned that official silence often says more than official statements.
Guest Indy Pederson, author of Sacrificing Humanity, steps into that uneasy space with a warning that is difficult to ignore and impossible to flatten into entertainment. His story moves from Patagonia to nuclear command sites, from alleged orbs and mutilations to the machinery of global destruction. He speaks of Isla Magdalena, dreams of nuclear war, KGB offices, Cheyenne Mountain, launch control centers, and the possibility that mankind is climbing a ladder of escalation it may not be able to climb back down from.
The issue is not whether every claim should be accepted without challenge. It should not. The issue is whether modern people still know how to listen without mockery, question without arrogance, and discern without surrendering common sense. The old habit of laughing at what sounds strange has often been the refuge of people too frightened to investigate. At the same time, belief without testing is not courage. It is negligence wearing a mystical hat.
That is why the nuclear thread matters. SIPRI estimated that, as of January 2026, the world still held roughly 12,187 nuclear warheads, with about 9,745 in military stockpiles, 4,012 deployed with missiles and aircraft, and 2,100 to 2,200 kept on high operational alert.
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists set the 2026 Doomsday Clock at 85 seconds to midnight, the closest in its history. In other words, Pederson's warning may sound strange, but the nuclear danger underneath it is not imaginary.
Peter Vazquez and Bob bring the conversation back to the place where every mystery eventually lands: responsibility. If there is something in the sky, if there is something hidden in government files, if there is something dangerous in the nuclear age, then the question is not simply what is out there. The question is whether America still has enough moral seriousness to face what is right here.
That question becomes sharper when the discussion turns to Iran.
The U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding was reported as a 14-point framework built around a 60-day negotiation window, a ceasefire extension, reopening the Strait of Hormuz, sanctions relief, oil export provisions, frozen assets, and a $300 billion reconstruction incentive. That is not an ordinary diplomatic footnote. That is a test of national judgment. A deal like that either becomes a wall against Iran's nuclear future, or it becomes another paper bridge for a hostile regime to walk back into wealth, oil, and legitimacy.
The debate is not clean because the world is not clean. Nobody serious wants another forever war. Nobody wants American sons and daughters coming home in flag-draped coffins. Nobody wants gas prices crushing working families. But peace without verification is not peace. Diplomacy without consequence is theater. A promise from a regime that has spent decades funding terror, threatening Israel, empowering proxies, and playing for time is not security simply because someone typed it into a memorandum.
Recent hostilities in the Gulf have already exposed the fragility of that kind of agreement. Reporting on June 28, 2026, described renewed conflict and broad wording in the U.S.-Iran memorandum, especially around Lebanon and control of safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz. That matters because ambiguity is where bad actors breathe. When a regime and its proxies can define a document differently than America defines it, the public should not be told to relax because paperwork exists.
That is where the Obama and Pelosi cuts matter. Obama argues that diplomacy can solve 80 or 90 percent of the problem without war. It is the strongest case for restraint. But the hard question remains: what if the remaining 10 or 20 percent is the bomb? Pelosi attacks the Trump framework as a giveaway, pointing to sanctions relief, oil sales, frozen money, and the failure to address ballistic missiles. That criticism lands awkwardly because many of the same voices defended the old Iran deal when the same core weakness was dressed in different political colors.
This is the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis in motion: the same ruling class language, the same polished ambiguity, the same public asked to trust leaders who move the goalposts and call it wisdom.
The issue does not stay overseas. The alleged plot against UFC Freedom 250 at the White House brings the danger home. The Justice Department charged five men in an alleged plot to attack and kill government officials and others attending the event. That is not noise. That is a warning that domestic security, border integrity, radicalization, and civic order are not side issues. They are the walls of the house.
Then the story lands in Rochester, because every national crisis eventually walks through the local front door. Rochester City Council approved a $706.8 million 2026-27 budget, about $22 million higher than the prior year, with a $7.5 million property tax levy increase. Government grows. Fees rise. Families adjust. Leaders promise stability. The people get the invoice.
Seattle offers the economic cautionary tale in another form.
Reports tied to the Downtown Seattle Association say downtown Seattle's office vacancy rate rose to 32%, while related reporting cited roughly 30,000 downtown jobs lost and more than $10 billion in office value wiped away since the city's JumpStart payroll tax began. The lesson is older than politics: punish productivity long enough and it leaves. Capital moves. Jobs move. Families move. Government stays behind and calls the empty room progress.
Strange lights, nuclear threats, Iranian promises, terror plots, bloated budgets, and collapsing city centers may look like separate stories. They are not. They all ask whether America can still tell the truth before the cost becomes unbearable.
The conversation is not about fear. It is about sober eyes. It is about the difference between peace and appeasement, curiosity and gullibility, government and control, compassion and disorder, faith and fantasy, leadership and performance.
A country does not lose itself only when enemies attack. It loses itself when citizens are trained to doubt their own eyes, excuse failed leaders, laugh at warnings, and pay for policies that weaken the very civilization they were supposed to protect.
Truth is not rude. Truth is rescue. Strength is not cruelty. Strength is protection. And America, if it still intends to stand, must recover the courage to ask hard questions before the next crisis arrives politely wrapped in official language.
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Peter Vazquez:
In a world that seems to change daily, what will you do next? Welcome to The Next Steps Show with Peter Vazquez, a starting point for discussion and direction.
That is right, ladies and gentlemen. The Voice of Liberty is a starting point, not just to go out there and talk, but to go out there and put action into action and feet to prayer, amigos y amigas.
Because guess what? America is definitely living in an age where the old walls between mystery, military power, prophecy, and technology are starting to crack.
We are watching governments release things like unidentified anomalous phenomena, known as UAPs. What a concept. Today, you know where I am going. These files cannot really fully explain some of these things. We are watching nuclear powers climb the ladder of escalation, pretending the next rung is safe.
We are watching elites, including those we elected, speak in polished language. We call that the Vanboolzalness Crisis, where ordinary people like you and me sense that something deeper is moving beneath the surface, but yet we are told, "Mira, shut up and sit down."
The next guest coming up for this segment has spent decades studying the intersection of military history, religious prophecy, symbolism, nuclear war, and modern technology. Ladies and gentlemen, he is the author of Sacrificing Humanity, researcher, designer, entrepreneur, and investigator, Senor Indy Pederson.
Indy, bienvenido to The Next Steps Show, sir.
Indy Pederson:
Thank you for having me.
Peter Vazquez:
Tell us, Indy, who are you? What have you done? Why should our listeners care about this next conversation we are having?
Indy Pederson:
I am an entrepreneur. I went off and bought an island property and was building a $60 million resort on an island. When I was purchasing the property, locals told me, "You know, this island that you are buying property on is a known UFO base."
I laughed at them because I did not believe in UFOs. If it had just been one person, that would have been one thing, but it was not. I was told that by multiple people. I still went ahead and purchased the property, and then it turns out they were correct.
Peter Vazquez:
Let me make sure I understand this correctly for our listeners. You purchased nine miles of Isla Magdalena, an uninhabited, undeveloped island in Patagonia, Chile, along with major glacier water rights. Why did you purchase an island? Was it just to build the resort?
Indy Pederson:
No. I had some horrible dreams in the 1980s. Unbeknownst to me, Jordan Peterson was having the same dreams, just absolutely horrific, very real dreams about nuclear war.
I checked it out. I went to all the top nuclear sites in the United States, from inside Cheyenne Mountain to Bangor, to the launch control centers in Missouri. I even went to Moscow, Russia, and interviewed the head of the START agreements, Colonel Yablonski, and others.
I found out they were right. I interviewed missileers who had witnessed a countdown they could not stop. Later, it was officially called a computer glitch, but I used to work at Google, and computers do not glitch. It is a total misnomer. They do what they are programmed to do unless they are taken over by an outside force, which these were.
Peter Vazquez:
The Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for unidentified anomalous phenomena says the materials archived there are unresolved cases, meaning the government is unable to make definitive determinations on the nature of the observed phenomena. That is quoted from them.
But you have, I think, personal proof that you talk about in your book Sacrificing Humanity that kind of counters it. Am I correct?
Indy Pederson:
Well, in the congressional hearings, there was a Galileo moment. If you look at the totality of them, it should have been a Galileo moment, realizing we are not the center of the universe, because they admitted UFOs are real and that they are injuring people and killing people.
They admitted Roswell happened. They admitted they reverse-engineered the craft. They admitted that we have bodies and called them biologics. It should have been the biggest story in human history, but it kind of got buried. You can find that hearing. Nancy Mace had it up for almost a year, even though it aired on C-SPAN when it was live.
It should be a big story.
Peter Vazquez:
I would think so.
Your work describes years of firsthand investigation across 30 countries, which includes contacts connected to the KGB offices in Moscow, the Nuclear START Program, Cheyenne Mountain, Missouri launch control infrastructure, the Bangor submarine base, and nuclear sites. Sir, you have been in places people do not even know exist.
That is one of the most exciting parts of this conversation. Two things: how did you get access, if you can share that, and are you convinced that there is extraterrestrial life?
Indy Pederson:
They are still calling it extraterrestrial life, but they are calling UFOs UAPs now.
Anyone can get permission. It just takes a long time, many months, and if you are a U.S. citizen, they check your background and you can get access.
For me, the most shocking revelation was in Chile, after buying that island the locals told me was a known UFO base. I experienced an orb two feet in front of my face. I could literally see inside of it. It looked like a churning liquid-metal fusion reaction going on inside it. All that was between me and it was the side window of the truck.
It started far away. My business partner and I were watching it. Then it came down and hovered over a tree. This took 15 minutes, so it rules out ball lightning and the piezoelectric effect. It also showed intelligence because it knew where we were. I was in the middle of nowhere, with no one within 100 miles of us, on a dirt road in a national park at 3 a.m. in Patagonia.
It saw us, came down, hovered in front of me, and then something really bizarre happened that I had never heard about until recently with the data dumps and whistleblowers. It was called a morphing orb. The orb started converting into a being with a torso and a head right in front of my eyes. I completely freaked out and drove like crazy. My partner was screaming, "Slow down, you are going to kill us," like I could outrun one of these things.
Peter Vazquez:
I have to say, I think I would have been a little bit freaked out myself.
Let me read some numbers to put this in perspective, sir. Your book also talks about symbology. It also addresses faith and how that plays into this.
The Department of War's PURSUE archive describes UAP materials as unresolved cases. In June 2026, a CBS News/YouGov poll found that 63% of Americans believe that there is life on another planet. More than one in five Americans believe aliens have already visited Earth, and eight in ten Americans believe the government knows more about extraterrestrial life than it is telling the public.
I fall into most of those categories, sir, because you cannot really dismiss the "that is a little weird" stuff.
Indy Pederson:
Exactly. There is a lot more to this. You have both the orbs and the craft, and the two seem to be related somehow, because when one shows up, the other shows up.
I witnessed one of the largest cattle mutilations directly across the narrow one-mile fjord from my island property, where hundreds of cows and sheep were mutilated in Patagonia, dozens in one single night when I was there.
I saw it, and two potential investors saw it. The cows and sheep had their eyes cored out in perfect circular patterns, almost like geological core samples. Their sex organs and anus were sucked out, and it was completely bloodless.
If I can quickly sum up why this is illustrative and disproves other existing theories: number one, the U.S. military was nowhere near Chile at the time. Everyone knows when they are there, because ships are offshore and the Marines go to Starbucks.
Number two, the Chilean military is massively underfunded and cannot do it. In terms of Satanists or pranksters, that is out because it was the middle of the Chilean winter, and the few families there are intermarried. You have to drive in on a dirt road, and they all know each other. In winter in the rainforest, you cannot take one step without leaving a deep track.
Helicopters are out too, because down there we could not even get one for a TV show. Plus, the clincher was that people were in what they called psicosis colectiva because they were seeing orbs at the same time their cows were being drained of blood. Orbs and lights were going through, and it was on every television station in all the mainstream news in Chile and South America.
Peter Vazquez:
Friends, author of Sacrificing Humanity, researcher, designer, entrepreneur, and investigator Indy Pederson.
Sir, you have about three seconds to tell us your website where we can get the book.
Indy Pederson:
SacrificingHumanity.com.
Peter Vazquez:
Thank you very much, sir. May God continue to bless you in the work that you do.
We will be right back right here on the Voice of Liberty, ladies and gentlemen, with lines open for you and me.
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Peter Vazquez:
Man, if you have had your blood sucked out, I would really like you to call. I would like to know.
Now listen, ladies and gentlemen, we are not so much picking on the guy or the story, but the reality is this: I get my blood sucked out every April 15th.
Bob:
Yes.
Peter Vazquez:
I will admit a little secret here. I sometimes file an extension just out of spite, and then they can suck my blood out in October.
Bob:
They will get to it.
Peter Vazquez:
I figure they can delay the interest-free loan.
But on a serious note, Bob, these kinds of stories are worth sharing because everybody has a perspective. This gentleman wrote a book on it. It is selling, and it is his perspective. As weird as it may sound, as different as it may be, something caused him to sit back and say this is a reality for him.
The question for you is, do you accept what is there just because he said it? Do we criticize him because it sounds too awkward? Or do we take a second and say, let me look into this myself, or maybe let me ask some questions? That is the trick.
Bob:
In his case, you can buy his book and send him an email and ask him. What does that mean? If you email him, he is probably just going to reiterate what he said in the book. I do not see that as empirical proof of his claims.
Peter Vazquez:
No, it is not empirical proof. He did not have empirical proof except for his eyewitnesses.
Bob:
Did you read the book?
Peter Vazquez:
In preparation for this, I read some of it. It is definitely, in my opinion, more of a fiction-type book than a book-book. But again, most people call the Bible fiction too.
Bob:
I understand. I am not putting any credence in what he is saying. All I am saying is that everybody has a perspective.
Peter Vazquez:
Right. But he is not the only one I have heard those stories from. I personally have never seen weird extraterrestrial-looking things other than in Albany and Washington.
Bob:
We have interviewed a local lady here who had encounters.
Peter Vazquez:
Really? I would love to.
Bob:
I will talk to Jeff. He knows her.
Peter Vazquez:
The one thing I struggle with is people who say they died, saw the afterlife, came back, and can talk about it. That has more credibility with me.
Bob:
Really?
Peter Vazquez:
Yes.
Bob:
Interesting. Someday you will have to tell me why. Extraterrestrial life seems more likely to me than someone going into the afterlife and coming back and being able to talk about it. That seems contradictory to what the Bible says.
Peter Vazquez:
They both have a spiritual dimension to them, do they not? Even extraterrestrial life.
Look at the Bible story of Babel, Bob. When they were building that tower, God separated the tongues and sent them to different places. The Bible does not really say He created borders or countries. It says He separated them.
Is it really that far of a stretch to think that in this universe, with multiple galaxies and suns and everything we have here, that story does not mean they were just pushed out throughout the universe? Meaning there is extraterrestrial life?
I happen to be a believer in extraterrestrial life, in case that is a little secret you did not know.
I cannot remember who said it, but if there are not other civilizations throughout this vast universe, that seems wasteful. God does not seem to be a wasteful God, from what I can tell. Look at us. Every detail has a detail, and it goes even deeper when we talk about life being born in the womb.
Anyway, 585-346-3000. Bob, what else are we going to talk about?
Bob:
Let us talk about this thing going on in Iran.
Peter Vazquez:
The Iran deal. I wanted to spend some time on this today because we did not get time to get into it with the guest. There is a tie to nuclear war and what he is seeing in his book as well. It all kind of goes together, and I will butcher it if I try to explain it out of his book. If you want to know more, read it.
But we are seeing a deal being rolled out by President Trump.
Bob:
It is not a deal. It is a memorandum of understanding.
Peter Vazquez:
Yes, which means it is a framework for negotiation. I am glad you pointed that out. It is a 60-day cessation of hostilities while we try to get to some common ground.
Bob:
I do not know how much you know about this, Peter, but I was listening to commentary from Glenn Beck this morning and also heard the overnight show with Gary and Eric discussing it. Like Glenn, I am not liking what I am hearing.
Peter Vazquez:
I am glad you said that, because I am not really liking what I am hearing either. However, have we taken the time to look at the possible strategies or reasons why Trump is deciding to go in this direction?
He pretty much handed Democrats something to talk about. We will hear some cuts shortly from Nancy Pelosi, of all people, talking about how great Obama's deal was and how Trump's deal is the same but worse.
You know me. I like Trump. I am not trying to defend him. I am trying to understand him. I think Glenn Beck does too, and I think Eric and Gary like Trump. But we have concerns about the initial outlines of this MOU.
Let us set some outlines so everyone understands what is there. President Donald Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian electronically signed an interim agreement that extends the ceasefire, opens the Strait of Hormuz, begins a 60-day negotiation window, and places sanctions, oil exports, frozen assets, Lebanon, nuclear matters, and a $300 billion reconstruction framework on the table.
I was listening to Vice President J.D. Vance discuss this in an interview, and he said this is just an agreement. There is nothing right now that allows Iran to get goofy without us turning around and saying, "Mira, we have other cards. If you do not follow this agreement or at least move in the direction we have discussed, we will go back to bombing."
Bob:
The near term does not concern me as much as the long term.
Peter Vazquez:
Let us look at the memorandum. Paragraph one declares the termination of military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon, and says the United States, Iran, and their allies will refrain from the threat or use of force against one another.
I want to pause there and go back to the initial discussions President Trump was having at the beginning of this war, when he said the intent is not regime change. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. He was very specific. "You want regime change? The Iranian people have to step up and establish the regime they want."
Paragraph two commits both nations to respect sovereignty and territorial integrity and refrain from interfering in internal affairs.
As J.D. Vance confirmed, most of the Middle East allies right now like this MOU and could not stand what Obama did. They say this deal pushes Iran to a point where they have no choice but to stop enrichment of uranium, with consequences.
Bob:
Yes, but what if they lie about it?
Peter Vazquez:
That is the part I think Trump is not negotiating on. The issue is always accountability and verification.
Paragraph three sets the final deal period at 60 days, but makes it extendable by mutual consent.
Bob:
So the 60 days is meaningless.
Peter Vazquez:
Why do you say that? I think 60 days are critical.
Bob:
Because 60 days are not written in stone.
Peter Vazquez:
That is the thing. There is not a lot written in stone. But J.D. Vance said plainly that actions speak louder than anything that can be read. If you do not follow through, we will go back to bombing.
Ladies and gentlemen, 585-346-3000 or 866-552-1009. What say you? We will be right back right here on The Next Steps Show with Peter Vazquez, Roberto, the King of the Queso, and the Voice of Liberty, WISL, WLEA.
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Peter Vazquez:
Muchas gracias, hermano. Ladies and gentlemen, enjoy the music. Let that stress roll off you. It is almost Friday. It is almost the weekend. Nothing matters if you stress yourself to the point of sickness.
Now check this out. As we talk about this Iran deal, the left continues to argue that the original agreement worked. Tell me how.
Mike, thank you for calling The Next Steps Show, Papa.
Caller Mike:
Gentlemen, good afternoon.
The original was not going to work with Obama. The Iranians have enough money that they were going to build a nuke one way or another. If they did not build it, they would buy it from Pakistan. Slip Pakistan enough money, and they are going to slip them one back.
My concern is the Iranians are going to get a nuke one way or another. I am also concerned about our European allies, England and France. They have nuclear weapons and are being taken over by Muslims. There is concern there.
As far as Iran having nuclear weapons, we designate the ICBM and paint on the side, "From America with love." Iran, you want to be in the nuclear ballgame? You want to play ball with the big boys? The big boys have you targeted. Tehran could be a parking lot. We could turn Iran into a nice glassy area.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, that is what I think the Trump deal does. It tells Iran, because we said from the beginning we are not going into this for regime change, and he told the people in Iran, step up for your own regime change. I think what you described is exactly what this plan is doing.
Plus, we have midterm elections coming up. He has to deal with that too. I think he is genius, to be honest.
Did you have a chance to listen to Glenn Beck today?
Caller Mike:
Yes.
Peter Vazquez:
To summarize, according to Glenn Beck, this agreement is a political exercise. It is a reflection of what the American people want. The American people do not want a protracted ground war where guys come home in body bags. They also do not want $5, $6, or $7 gasoline. The American people have made it clear to President Trump that is not what they want. The alternative is some compromise, much of which we may not like.
Caller Mike:
That is true. You have to look at the tactical situation. Iran is mountainous, with 90 million people. They have been preparing for 47 years and digging things underground. They could pop with an army of two million right off the bat.
How many American troops do we have that we can physically send in? Look at the quagmire we were in Iraq and Afghanistan for almost 20 years. What happened? We walked out and the Taliban is ruling. Who is in charge of Syria now? What good did it do us there?
Bob:
We are not good at regime change.
Caller Mike:
If we really want to play ball, we nationalize all the oil companies in American territorial waters. That oil goes directly to the U.S., not on the world market. We build a new refinery system, refine our oil, and tell them to pound sand.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, I could agree with you except for the nationalizing part. I do not agree with that. But why would we not want to put our oil on the global market and, if possible, put some competitors out of business, especially those feeding money into destroying America?
Caller Mike:
Look at oil prices now. Who is making the profit? The oil barons. The U.S. taxpayer is not getting the higher royalties we should be getting off our oil fields. More of that money should go to our people.
Peter Vazquez:
Hang on, Mike. I want your response to this. The thing I struggle with is that you agreed with me at the beginning that the Obama deal could not work, and that included a cash benefit. Remember, we put cash on a plane and risked our soldiers flying it over there.
Bob, cut one if we can.
Audio Cut 1 - Nancy Pelosi:
For this president to have torn it up and now coming back with even what the Republicans said is a failure. It is a failure if we are giving $300 billion for reconstruction, to lift the sanctions on the sale of oil, to so many things, again unfreezing money in banks that they have wanted to have unfrozen. Just a ridiculous giveaway and not addressing the one complaint that people had about the Obama nuclear agreement with Iran, that it did not address the ballistic missiles, and neither does this. So we tore up a good agreement, we went to war, we lost American lives sadly, but we have something that is costing taxpayers enormous amounts of money to give to Iran and paying individually at the pump. And this is really something that has hit home hard for people.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, the reason I want your opinion on this is because I am seeing people, even on the conservative side, speaking against this, and in some cases not analytically. It is more of a "Trump sucks" discussion without taking time to look at the strategies or why he is doing this. He never said regime change. Everyone else is talking about regime change.
What Nancy Pelosi is referring to is more of a policy of giving them whatever they want money-wise to continue fueling that 47 years instead of dealing with the problem in the future. I think this plan will end up dealing with the problem.
Caller Mike:
You have to deal with the country that is in power now. The Iranian people come up, they protest, and they get squished down. Until they want to change their own country, we have to deal with the country in charge.
Before their oil was sold on the open market, Iranians had gas credits. They got free gas each month, then paid 15 or 20 cents a gallon.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, I really appreciate your call.
Ladies and gentlemen, lines are open. Looking at this whole deal, opening up the Strait, reducing gas, midterm elections, I mean, come on. 585-346-3000, 866-552-1009.
We will be right back right here in uno minutos or dos.
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Bob:
We are talking about the new MOA, or agreement, that President Trump is allegedly close to signing with the Iranians, or did sign as a precursor to a real agreement. The specifics are being leaked. One of the ones raising eyebrows is that the enriched uranium is never to leave Iran.
Peter Vazquez:
Yes, that is one of the things I found.
Bob:
Why would we leave it there?
Peter Vazquez:
They have to get rid of it. If I understood correctly, it either stays where it goes. It has to be destroyed, and they cannot maintain it, if I understand everything that has come out thus far.
Bob:
So it is there for the purpose of destruction?
Peter Vazquez:
Correct. Not for resale or use. J.D. Vance was pretty clear on that.
Again, I have an 11-minute ride into the studio, and that is what I heard on the way here.
Bob, is it perfect? I do not know. You explained it perfectly when you called it a political exercise. Remember, it is a midterm, and we have to win the midterms.
When you hear Nancy Pelosi saying what she is saying, and when people with microphones here locally do not take time to say, "Wait a minute, let us think about this," but just declare it a major problem, that is concerning. Especially here in Monroe County, where we have a leader of the Republican Party trying to do great things with great candidates to change the craziness.
Things like this next cut are what people are hearing and taking as substantiated without analysis.
Bob, please.
Audio Cut 2 - Barack Obama:
It is doubtful that any agreement that arises is going to be significantly different or a significant improvement from the deal that we had in the first place and had worked for for a long stretch of time before we, the United States, pulled out of it. So I am hopeful that bombing stops and ordinary people are no longer suffering as a consequence of the war.
I think in retrospect it is a reminder that on a lot of difficult foreign policy problems, the notion that we can just bully our way or bomb our way to solutions may sometimes seem appealing, but the fact of the matter is that taking the time to explore diplomacy and exhaust the possibilities of coming up with deals that do not solve 100 percent of the problem, but solve 80 or 90 percent of the problem, while avoiding the necessity of going to war. You would think we would have learned that lesson by now, but it seems like every so often we have to relearn that lesson again.
Peter Vazquez:
My gosh. For those of you still awake, go ahead.
The only people who say nonsense like that, Bob, are people with purple hair. That is who buys that.
Peace through strength is a reality. We have to show that if you mess with the United States, understand that we will mess with you back. If you hit us with a stone, we will throw a boulder at you. Done. We are going to protect our people.
This is what Obama sells. He says you cannot bomb your way into solutions. But for 47 years, Iran had an opportunity to say, "Mira, we want peace in the Middle East like everybody else." Did they? No.
They are Twelvers. It has to be said. We do not like this, but the man running Iran right now, the man who signed this MOU, is a Twelver. He believes in the coming of the Twelfth Imam and the end of the world. This is what they think God's plan is for us: destruction.
I am not saying the person Trump chose to do this MOU with makes sense to me, but again, we are not looking for regime change. The Democrats and leftists were accusing us of seeking regime change in Iran, and Trump said that is not what we are doing. If that is the leader you want, do you. But you have to follow these rules, or we are going to wipe you out. That is what he has said consistently.
That is why I do not understand why so many people are not saying, "Wait a minute, this deal seems odd, but what is the strategy?"
Bob:
The reality is we have a Twelver regime. The IRGC, the ruling power in Iran, are extremists. They are in charge now. We would wish somebody more reasonable were in charge, but they are not. So that is a fixed condition we have to work with.
We also have the American electorate, which does not want a protracted ground war with casualties coming home and a conflict Democrats will invariably label a quagmire no matter what the results are. Also, we do not want $6 or $7 gasoline because the American public will not put up with it.
Put all that together and you get a memorandum of understanding. It is going to contain things that sound like we are maybe giving up or selling out.
Peter Vazquez:
This is where there is a difference between trusting a leader and trusting someone elected because he made us feel good at the moment.
Again, I trust Trump because 90 percent, or really 99 percent in my opinion, if I am wrong, call and let me know.
Bob:
Also ponder this: what is going to be the effect if we take a hard line and there is a protracted conflict with a lot of casualties, civilian deaths, destruction, and elimination of infrastructure needed for a civilized Iran to exist? Suppose that affects the midterms. President Trump then has to face a hostile Congress run by lefties. He will be impeached repeatedly, and the American public will feel all kinds of negative effects.
Or do we want to deal with this in an informed and carefully piloted way?
Peter Vazquez:
He has two years left after these midterms. I think he knows that, and I think he is planning for that.
Bob:
There is more than that. The next two years pave the way for the four years following that. The objective should be to preserve the Trump structure within the federal government and make a follow-on with J.D. Vance or whoever possible for another four years. That is vital for this country to recover from the ravages, and I mean that, of Obama and Biden.
Peter Vazquez:
Although you keep saying J.D. Vance, other people say Marco Rubio. I am taking Peter Vazquez for president. How about that, Bob?
Bob:
No question.
Peter Vazquez:
We will take The Next Steps Show right into the White House.
Let us come home a little bit, Bob. Because here in Rochester, actually, the UFC plot connects to this. Trump's actions, including this MOU, are also working toward ensuring safety for the people in this nation.
Remember, the Middle East said they are going to destroy us from within. That is also part of this war.
The UFC Freedom 250 event at the White House was a phenomenal thing, and there was a terror plot against it. Guess who was planning it, Bob?
Bob:
Mexican illegal.
Peter Vazquez:
Leftists. Illegal. I guess you can say both.
Mike Kennedy texted me and said the biggest difference in this deal is NATO. He says Trump has NATO on his side. Mike, thank you for pointing that out.
As far as we are concerned, the fact that he has NATO in his pocket proves there is a bigger, more structured, long-term solution to a 47-year-old threat to the world. That represents God, country, and family.
Bob, from Seattle to Washington, budgets and taxes, the national story always comes home. Leaders make promises, institutions expand, costs rise, and then we look at places like Seattle and see an economic warning.
Is all this national stuff just a distraction? We can take it closer. It is not just Seattle with a wackadoodle mayor. We have our own wackadoodle mayor here. We have our own wackadoodle city council.
Here in Rochester, with all that is going on nationally and all that is going on in outer space, the real lunacy is happening in our own backyard to the tune of $706.8 million. That is going to everything other than ensuring we have a stable City of Rochester and surrounding areas.
Bob:
I am glad you brought that up. I have been listening to some rhetoric from Spencer Pratt out in Los Angeles warning his Angelino friends that if they want four more years of mismanagement, chaos, corruption, and rights being trampled, then elect another Democrat.
This moral equivalency from mass media and political leaders saying Republicans do it too is rightly being called BS.
Peter Vazquez:
Or Vanboolzalness.
Bob:
All the things that have made our lives difficult, expensive, vexing, and dangerous have come from the left. That is Democrats, not Republicans.
Peter Vazquez:
Bob, we are connected today. I am happy you said that because I also want to point this out: Bratt dropped a little bit in the primary polling, and people need to pay attention, or you will get another buffoon at the local level.
Ladies and gentlemen, be a leader, be a leader, be a leader. God bless these United States of America, and do not let a second go by where you are not that voice for liberty.
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