Truth Through the Storm captures a raw, unscripted hour with Peter Vazquez and Bob Savage as callers wrestle with Trump’s Meet the Press interview, Iran, Israel, media distrust, gas prices, faith, sovereignty, and weaponized justice. What began with a stormy interview became a broader warning about a nation struggling to tell truth from theater.
From foreign policy to fuel prices, from biblical conviction to government accountability, the conversation pressed one urgent question: can America remain free if confusion, selective justice, and dishonest narratives are allowed to rule the day?
Truth Through the Storm. Truth did not arrive gently today. It came through the rain, through a broken interview, through callers who refused to sit quietly, and through a country still trying to decide whether courage is wisdom or whether fear has simply learned to dress itself as caution.
Peter Vazquez opened the lines and let the people speak. No guest was needed. The guest was the nation itself, restless, divided, suspicious, wounded, and still stubborn enough to argue because it still believes something worth saving remains.
The storm began with President Trump’s June 7 Meet the Press interview, where the rain on the farm became more than weather. It became the sound of a country trying to hear truth through the noise. Kristen Welker pressed. Trump pushed back.
The press made itself the story, again, because apparently even a nuclear Iran must wait while media institutions rehearse their wounded pride. Tim Russert’s name came up, not as nostalgia for a softer age, but as a measuring stick for what journalism once claimed to be: tough, fair, disciplined, and interested in answers rather than performance.
This was not only a media fight. It was a trust fight. When Americans already know how each outlet will frame the same event before the segment even airs, journalism stops acting like a public service and starts acting like a sorting machine. One side saw Trump exposing a corrupt press. Another saw Trump dodging accountability.
The deeper issue is that citizens no longer believe institutions are trying to inform them before trying to shape them. That is not a small crack in civic life. That is the foundation shifting under the house.
Then the callers came.
Keith challenged Trump’s timing and tactics on Iran. Mike called the intervention a mistake. Rick warned about foreign entanglements, oil prices, and the danger of repeating Iraq. Lorraine pushed back, arguing that Iran’s culture of death cannot be treated like a normal negotiating partner.
Gary pulled the lens wider, warning that America is not merely watching a war but witnessing the collision of old power systems, global corruption, and the fight for national sovereignty. Another Mike called in to defend Israel, biblical truth, and the reality that a regime openly committed to destruction cannot be handed the benefit of civilized doubt forever.
That was the soul of the hour: not blind agreement, not scripted politics, but a free people wrestling out loud with the awful weight of leadership.
Iran was not discussed as a distant headline. It was treated as the moral and strategic question it is. Can America afford to wait until evil proves itself with a mushroom cloud?
Can a nation built on God, country, and family pretend that peace is the same thing as delay? Trump’s argument was blunt: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. The callers disagreed on method, timing, and motive, but nobody could honestly deny the stakes. A regime that has spent decades threatening the West does not become safe because cable news is uncomfortable with decisive action.
The Iran question sits at the crossroads of prudence and strength. The Strait of Hormuz is not some obscure strip of water for policy analysts to mumble about over bad coffee. It is one of the world’s most important oil chokepoints, carrying about 20 million barrels per day, roughly one-fifth of global petroleum liquids consumption.
When that region shakes, the American worker feels it at the pump, the farmer feels it in fertilizer and diesel, the shipper feels it in freight, and the family feels it in groceries. Foreign policy is never foreign to the people paying the bill.
Still, Peter and Bob did not reduce the matter to slogans. They pressed the hard tension: strength must have prudence. A red line must mean something. A mission must be clear. A leader must not promise what war, diplomacy, oil markets, and tyrants may not allow him to control. That is not weakness. That is grown-up statecraft, a concept Washington occasionally visits like a relative it does not particularly enjoy.
From there, the conversation turned homeward, because war never stays overseas. It lands in fuel prices, fertilizer costs, family budgets, farm margins, and the anxious question every working person asks at the pump: who is actually paying for all this? The panelists on Meet the Press tried to frame Trump as disconnected from economic pain, but Peter cut through the performance. Gas prices in blue states like New York do not rise in a vacuum.
Policy has consequences. Taxes have consequences. Regulation has consequences. War has consequences. The bill always finds the working family first.
The economy is split between the official report and the kitchen table. The country added 172,000 jobs in May, and unemployment held at 4.3 percent. Those are not meaningless numbers. Work matters. Growth matters.
But long-term unemployed workers still made up 27.5 percent of all unemployed Americans, and national gas remained above four dollars a gallon after peaking near $4.56 in May. That is the tension listeners understand instinctively: Washington says the machine is running, but families can hear the gears grinding.
Then came the deeper wound: trust.
Trust in the press. Trust in elections. Trust in justice. Trust in government. Trust in leaders who ask citizens to believe them while too often refusing to explain themselves plainly.
Trump’s line landed because millions already feel it: a country cannot be great with a dishonest press. That does not mean every hard question is an attack. It means a press that has lost the ability to examine itself has lost the moral authority to lecture everyone else.
And when the conversation turned toward January 6, weaponized government, destroyed families, prosecutions, and the proposed anti-weaponization fund, the question became sharper still.
What does justice mean when power changes hands? If government can ruin people through selective prosecution, surveillance, intimidation, or political targeting, then liberty is no longer protected by law. It is merely rented until the next administration decides the lease has expired.
Justice cannot become a tribal benefit program. Federal records and major case trackers show the scale of January 6 was enormous, with 1,575 federal cases tracked and about 140 officers injured that day. That reality cannot be erased. Neither can the concern that government power can be abused, overextended, or aimed selectively. A serious nation must be able to say both things at once: law enforcement must be honored, political violence must be rejected, and government weaponization must be exposed wherever it appears. Anything less is not justice. It is team sports with subpoenas.
This was not just a radio hour. It was a civic alarm bell.
Peter Vazquez and Bob Savage held the center while callers brought heat from every direction. The discussion moved from Meet the Press to Iran, from Israel to oil, from media bias to Trump’s leadership, from biblical covenant to national sovereignty, from military action abroad to economic pain at home.
Beneath every disagreement was the same question: what kind of nation survives if truth is managed, justice is selective, borders are mocked, allies are doubted, enemies are excused, and citizens are told to be quiet while elites rearrange the world?
Even the brief turn toward friendship carried weight. National Best Friend Day sounded light at first, almost like a harmless pause before the fire returned. But it fit. Pew found that 61 percent of U.S. adults say close friends are extremely or very important to a fulfilling life, while 53 percent say they have only one to four close friends.
That matters because a divided country does not heal through institutions alone. It heals through households, churches, families, neighbors, phone calls, and the rare friend willing to tell the truth without walking away.
The answer is not panic. It is not blind loyalty. It is not surrender dressed up as sophistication. The answer is discernment with a backbone.
A free nation cannot live on staged outrage, selective justice, foreign entanglements, and local excuses. It must tell the truth about evil abroad and corruption at home. It must defend its allies without becoming careless. It must question its leaders without becoming cynical. It must reject the media’s addiction to narrative control. It must remember that peace without strength is often just danger taking a short nap.
This was the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis in full view: confusion sold as wisdom, weakness sold as restraint, bias sold as journalism, and consequences handed to the people least responsible for creating them.
The next step is not to hide from the argument. The next step is to enter it with truth, courage, faith, and enough moral clarity to stop mistaking noise for wisdom.
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Peter Vazquez:
When truth is buried in the noise, power stops serving the people and starts managing their confusion. The storm on the farm, when the interview became the story. Bob, that was a great interview we watched over the weekend. It was on Meet the Press, on June 7.
Bob Savage:
What a train wreck. I do not know if I would call it a train wreck, but I found it humorous. I found it typical of that station and the things they try to perpetuate. I will tell you, Tim Russert has to be rolling over in his grave.
Peter Vazquez:
Spinning in his grave. Tell me who Tim Russert was.
Bob Savage:
Tim Russert was the longtime, unimpeachably great host of that program. He was from Buffalo, a Buffalo native, and a great journalist. There was no ideology there. He was just doing what you are supposed to do. He was a master of the interview process. When you sat in that chair, nobody was his friend. He was getting to the bottom of the issues he wanted to get to the bottom of.
Peter Vazquez:
I thought that was how Meet the Press used to be. I remembered there was a local tie to it. When I watched this interview, I thought, that cannot be the same Meet the Press I used to watch. I was much younger then and not too involved.
Bob Savage:
It is not. Then again, most of those stations are not.
Peter Vazquez:
Ladies and gentlemen, lines are open today: 585-346-3000 or 866-552-1009. I decided to leave today open because I want you to be my guest. Be my guest. I do not know the rest. National Best Friend Day, Bob.
Bob Savage:
How nice. Give your best friend a hug.
Peter Vazquez:
I think this is relevant and important because when we start talking politics and start seeing responses, and we are going to spend some time on that interview today and listen to some cuts as we go through, the thing is this: when I am watching and reading comments on social media posts and some of the funny videos people are making from them, I have come to realize that it is days like today, the day after a good interview, that you need a good friend.
Pew Research says 61 percent of American adults say having a close friend is extremely or very important. They also found that 53 percent of adults have only one to four close friends. I think I fall into that category.
Bob Savage:
I think most people do. That is why there is the old phrase, he who dies with five close friends dies a wealthy man.
Peter Vazquez:
My number of friends has dwindled. Let me rephrase that. The number of people I consider friends has dwindled over the years because of stupid things. Mostly because they get mad at me when I challenge something, like when The Guardian reported that Trump walked out after clashing with Welker over election crimes. I thought, no, they misrepresented that.
Keith, thank you for calling The Next Steps Show.
Keith:
No one does not like you, Peter. I could be a bad guy and say I hate you, but no, you are okay, I guess. Tim Russert was okay. He was not as spectacular as you make him. You could still tell he was a liberal.
Here is a Jeopardy question for you before I comment further. Who was Russert’s predecessor, the guy who really started Meet the Press?
Peter Vazquez:
I am blanking. Senior moment.
Keith:
I think it was Lawrence Spivak. Does that ring a bell?
Peter Vazquez:
No, but we could look it up.
Keith:
I could be dead wrong. When it comes to Trump going on that show to begin with, I am taking the exact opposite position of my fellow conservatives. What does Trump not understand? He will never get a fair hearing on a show like that. What is so compulsive with this big ego that he feels the need to go on there and waste all that time?
Peter Vazquez:
I do not think it is ego, Keith. I think he wants to address the whole country. He wants to be president of the whole country. He knows the audience for Meet the Press is overwhelmingly liberal. He wants to tell the truth to those folks, and he does not care whether anybody likes him or not.
Bob Savage:
I think there may be a sub rosa agenda going on, and that is exposing these people for who they are. I think he did a great job at that.
Keith:
In closing on my part, let us take that over to the Iranian war. Why has Trump wasted two months trying to play nice with these evil mullahs? My friend Tony and I talked. We agree fully. He should have continued on with that bombing. On the first day of the war, the Israelis took out 49 of their top guys. Why did that not continue?
Trump shows too much of a need to be liked. When he tells Netanyahu not to bomb, when Israel has every right to defend itself, Trump ends up sounding like Biden. When Hamas struck on October 7, 2023, Biden wanted Israel to turn the other cheek. Biden did not want Israel to retaliate in any way, and Trump is coming across now like Biden.
He is not going to get any deal with those evil people who mowed down upwards of 45,000 of their own. I wonder if Trump feels blame on that. He said go into the streets before our military was ready to support them, and they were mowed down. I have never heard Trump express condolences for 45,000 Iranians murdered immediately by their own government. He should go back to bombing and get this war over with. People are fed up with it.
Peter Vazquez:
I do not disagree with you, Keith. We have to believe and trust the leaders we put in place and the decisions they are making and the strategies they are using. Obviously, I do not know why he did not continue, other than what all of us know. But what I do know is that the guy has never been short of a plan.
Bob Savage:
He is not doing it to wuss out, Keith. He realizes there is a cost, a PR cost to the United States, if he starts taking out civilian targets like power plants, water filtration plants, dams, roads, bridges, and so forth. No matter how hard he bombs, they are still going to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed. That is not good geopolitically for the United States or our allies until we have an alternative means of shipping oil.
We are working on that, but it is a standoff because the midterm elections are coming up. The Iranians know that, so they are going to drag this out. I do not think Trump has any illusions about what an agreement with the IRGC will mean. Politically, it is a tough situation, and I think Trump is trying to play it as best he can. He is not trying to get anybody to like him.
Peter Vazquez:
Keith, after watching this Meet the Press interview, I am even more convinced that the Democrats would love for Trump to go in there and start bombing the heck out of that country for every reason Doctor Savage just said.
Keith:
He promised the war would be over in four to five weeks. Without regime change, we are not going to have anything there. He was trying to do too much in too little time. I would say to people, I want to see the documentation that Iran was ready to go nuclear. We could have waited until after Republicans kept control of Congress. We need regime change if we are going to do it right, and we should have planned ahead to keep the Strait of Hormuz open. That was a drastic failure not to see that should have been done. How do you go into Iran and not secure that strait?
Bob Savage:
Because it cannot be done, Keith. If you know tactically what that involves, the geography there, and the current emplacements the Iranians have, it is a tough thing to accomplish.
Peter Vazquez:
Keith, I appreciate your call. Let us go into break with this statement, and we will hear the president say it himself when we get back: a country can never be great with a dishonest press. That underscores the problem.
Peter Vazquez:
By the way, if I were Trump, I would not have promised the war would be over in four to five weeks.
Bob Savage:
No. Do not do that. Also, this “we are about to sign an agreement” stuff has got to stop too.
Peter Vazquez:
He says that quite often. I have to wonder, Bob, is he feeding the leftist media to create fanfare, buzz, or distraction? When you look at how CNN and Fox presented the ending of this interview on June 7, they presented it through sharply different lenses. One emphasized an abrupt ending. The other emphasized Trump ripping the media as crooked.
They are both kind of right, but they are different. Let us play Cut One.
Audio Cut:
There is more evidence than ever presented. Let us talk about your elections in this country. We are like a third-world country. Your elections are crooked, and you are crooked, and Meet the Press is crooked. So is ABC and CBS and CNN. Your one-sided, crooked network. Sorry, let us call it quits because I have had enough. Thank you, darling. Have a good time.
Mr. President, please. I traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
I know. I traveled all the way to Wisconsin. On and off in the rain, and I have given you enough time. You ought to straighten out your press because a country can never be great with a dishonest press.
Peter Vazquez:
That ending was not the full context. She later went on to say that she had spoken to the president and they made peace, and that he would come back for another interview.
But Keith’s question matters. Why does Trump not stop the fight in Iran? Does he have proof on the election? These are statements the left-wing media uses to dismantle what is true. I do not disagree that there is a language issue. He uses terms like military strategies. He says the election was stolen. I get all of that.
But people have to understand that when we have a media that is proven to be almost exclusively against this man, and that is convincing people, even conservatives like Keith, that he is not doing what he says he is doing, it is dumbfounding.
He should not have promised it would end in 100 days. But this next cut is important. The show places the war at the 100-day mark. Trump says the United States lost 13 Americans and admits roughly 50,000 troops are positioned in the region. But he firmly denies breaking his promise of no new wars because he says he took out Iran’s army and infrastructure.
Bob Savage:
It depends what you mean by war. Not to get into semantic games like Bill Clinton, but is this a war? I do not know.
Peter Vazquez:
I believe this: foreign policy does not mean weakness. It does not mean isolation. It means the American people deserve a defined mission and a defined enemy.
Bob Savage:
There is a defined mission. The mission is to destroy Iran’s ability to make war and particularly to use nukes. He said that from the beginning. People are just not listening.
Peter Vazquez:
Peace through strength versus peace through vibes captures what he is doing. He does have a defined mission.
Let us play Cut Five.
Audio Cut:
One of your consistent campaign promises was no new wars going all the way back to 2015. Did you break that promise to the American people?
No. I had to stop a country, a very powerful, very dangerous country, from having a nuclear weapon because they would use it. They would blow up the world. They would blow up the Middle East. They would blow up Israel. They would come here. They would blow up Europe. They are nuts. They are crazy people. I deal with them. They are very high-strung people. You do not want to let them have a nuclear weapon. I am doing the world a service, but I am doing our country a service. It is America First.
Peter Vazquez:
He is doing our country a service. I think it is hard for the American people, especially because we have been lied to so much, to accept a statement like that from Trump. With all the bias against him, the strongest argument he has is that Iran with a nuclear weapon would be a civilizational threat. That is clear.
Lines are open, ladies and gentlemen: 585-346-3000. Does strength still serve prudence when the red line becomes “not fast enough,” Bob?
Bob Savage:
A red line is a red line. There is a well-defined red line here, and that is no nukes for Iran. That leads into the corner of whether there really was a nuclear threat. That is the kind of conundrum you cannot be wrong about. You want to err on the side of prevention.
They are saber-rattling. They are saying they have nukes and are about to use them. Given their demeanor and history, I would err on the side of believing them.
Peter Vazquez:
I agree.
Bob Savage:
We have not found any nukes. We bombed them a few months ago and wiped out their ability. But they are still saying they have them and are going to use them. China and Russia are also supplying them with things we do not even know about.
Peter Vazquez:
Let us play Cut Eight.
Audio Cut:
What would trigger you to restart military action? Would it be Iran killing more American citizens?
Certainly, that would be something I would think about very seriously. My red line would be if I think I was not going to make a deal, or if I was not going to make a deal fast enough. We are having very good negotiations with the people leading the country now. It is the third group we have been dealing with, and they are different. You could say it is regime change, actually, because these are very different people. I find them to be more rational and very smart.
Who is leading the country?
They are leaders. They are respected by the people who have to respect them. They are calling the shots. We know that because we see it through various tests we have given. It is a little strange because you have leaders who have been there for a long time, and they get wiped out. Then the second tier gets wiped out. All of a sudden, we are dealing with different people. I think we will either have something done fairly quickly, or we will finish it militarily.
Peter Vazquez:
To your point, Bob, I think that is exactly right. I do not think he is trying to save face or doublespeak. Trump has said many times that regime change, the completely different culture in that nation, has to come from the people. People I have had on the show looking to run that country have said that as well.
Mike, thank you for calling The Next Steps Show.
Mike:
Trump going into Iran has been the biggest mistake ever. This is the reason why, for the last 40-plus years, no other president has done it. It is a quagmire. The only reason he did this was his Zionist contributors to his campaign. The Adelsons want the Greater Israel project, and Iran is part of it. He is beholden to Netanyahu one way or another.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, you called at a good time. I am going to ask Bob to play Cut Seven. I would like your response to it.
Audio Cut:
We had a choice. We could let them have a nuclear weapon, or we could go along and have some beautiful days. But it is a judgment. They would have used a nuclear weapon. When people hear me say Iran is going to have a nuclear weapon and they are crazy, they say I am doing the right thing. I had to make a judgment. Do I want to go along and have a country doing really well, but somebody is going to try to kill us? Or do I want to put out that horrible threat? I did. I put it out for many years. Now I am going to put it out permanently. I am going to do it either through negotiation, where we are very close to a deal, or I am going to blow the hell out of them. That is actually the easier path.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, to paraphrase Trump, we had the choice of beautiful days and a make-believe peace now, with a continued nuclear threat over our head as that nation keeps promising. I do not understand how people do not see how taking out Iran was the smart thing to do and how he is the only president who had the courage to do it.
Mike:
Do you honestly think it took Iran 47 years to come up with the materials to make a nuclear bomb? Look at Pakistan. The technological advancements Iran has compared to Pakistan, and Pakistan has a bomb. The Iranians have probably had a bomb for decades. They have just never used it, and they have always used it as a threat.
Bob Savage:
If they have it, it does not matter when they got it. It has to be taken away from them.
Peter Vazquez:
Mike, I appreciate the call.
Peter Vazquez:
Ladies and gentlemen, the number is 585-346-3000. You can join the conversation. You can send me a text message. You can go on social media, Facebook, YouTube, X, Rumble, or the website, nextstepshow.com. I love it when you guys call. Dialogue is unstoppable. It is a movement. It is how we keep those jokers in check, each other informed, and grow a nation that stays informed.
Rick, thank you for calling The Next Steps Show.
Rick:
Peter, thanks for taking my call. I greatly respect you and Bob, but I have to agree with Mike on this one.
Peter Vazquez:
Tell me why.
Rick:
When we went into Iraq, we destabilized the whole region and allowed Iran to have more power and create a Shiite superstate. Right now, oil prices are up. We destabilized the Strait of Hormuz. For what? If Iran gets a nuke, Israel has nukes. It is mutually assured destruction. Pakistan has nukes. China has nukes. Nobody is nuking each other.
We should leave that region alone because our foreign policy when it comes to Israel has been miserable. I am not antisemitic. They gave us the Bible. But my theology is covenant theology. The church replaced Israel when it comes to the New Testament and the Bible. I do not support Israel’s government just because the Bible came from there.
Peter Vazquez:
You do not believe Iran was about to use nukes? You think it was just rhetoric?
Rick:
They have been saying since 2010 that Iran is one step away from a nuke. I do not know.
Peter Vazquez:
It seems like there is a lot more conviction recently.
Rick:
But what happened to the strike that was supposed to do something about it? That started this whole conflict. I think the smartest move is to pull out. They have to know if they nuke anybody in that region, it blows up the whole Middle East.
Bob Savage:
You are worried about destabilization in the Middle East. Who has been the author of that over there? Has it not been Iran?
Rick:
Yes, but in some ways Israel. Do you understand that Israel helped arm Al Qaeda to take over Syria? Syria under the leader they toppled was more reasonable than he was given credit for. Zbigniew Brzezinski started all this foreign policy, and he was in line with the Greater Israel project. The next stop is Turkey. I voted for Trump three times, but we cannot have the tail wagging the dog in this.
Peter Vazquez:
Rick, I appreciate the call. The line is open.
I do believe Trump’s economic argument. If we strengthen abroad and strengthen the Middle East, the cost will lower in this nation. But what would really increase is peace and tranquility. We cannot have rogue nations with all of their targets pointed at us and think that is okay.
When we went to Iraq, I was in the military. I worked for a general at the beginning. I saw a lot of the planning for that. I can promise you, if Trump had been president then, we would not have the issues we have today.
Lorraine, you are on The Next Steps Show.
Lorraine:
I have several quick thoughts, and at the end I will ask you for your opinion. First, I do not think it was a mistake. The only mistake Trump makes is promising things he cannot be positive about.
They have a culture of death in Iran, which they have proven by the many thousands of their own and in other ways. It is like going back several centuries and fighting someone rather than fighting someone in the modern world. Trump is using everything in his wisdom package to avoid nuclear attack or more death of citizens.
I have a question about the so-called greater plans Mike referenced that Israel may have. I have heard about that from a friend, and I do not agree, but I do not know enough about it. Then there is Zionism. I do not understand where Netanyahu fits in.
Peter Vazquez:
That is probably a whole segment conversation in the future.
Lorraine:
It is relevant today because they claim we are their puppets, and we are not Netanyahu’s puppet.
Peter Vazquez:
No, we are not. I think everybody is somebody’s puppet at some level when you get to the levels where they are. But the support for Israel, the biblical support I talk about all the time, has nothing to do with Israel’s current government or prime minister. It has to do with Israel’s right to exist as the promised land as indicated in the Bible.
Lorraine:
I agree strongly.
Peter Vazquez:
Lorraine, thanks. Gary, you are on with Peter and Bob.
Gary:
Hello, Peter and Bob. Interesting show you have going today. One of the biggest problems people have in understanding what Trump is doing is they do not know the history hidden from us about who actually runs the world.
Think back. Who ran Europe for thousands of years? The monarchs. The bloodline families. That is who still runs all of that. They have incorporated through banks and money laundering the drug cartels, child trafficking, and human trafficking around the world to fuel the elites and fund their obsessions.
Trump and our military, the people who saw the evil being perpetrated in our name and in Israel’s name by these elite rulers and secret-handshake societies, are taking that down and replacing a world economy based on endless war with one where we can have an economic future together, but sovereignty among the nations.
Peter Vazquez:
Gary, I think you are correct. The left is using the economic split happening in America to control a narrative that is not true. That is what the Meet the Press interview showed.
Gary:
That was a joke.
Peter Vazquez:
It was a joke.
Gary:
Trump and his team are adept at putting the shiny dime out there and drawing people out to expose themselves. He has done it all down the line. Look at the SAVE Act. They could not pass it when it had 80 or 85 percent favorability. What did that show us? It showed us who the traitors to the Constitution are. He does this repeatedly, and people are so blinded by Trump derangement syndrome that they do not see it. They just react.
Peter Vazquez:
Gary, I have a couple more cuts I want to share, and callers are lining up. Ladies and gentlemen, 585-346-3000.
Peter Vazquez:
Let me say this one more time: a free nation cannot survive staged outrage, selective justice, foreign entanglements, and local excuses. That all comes together. Do not become the excuse for the people trying to fill your head with things that are not quite right.
Listen, a nation that has spent 47 years with all its guns pointed to the West is a real threat. We are a country of God, country, and family. That carries responsibilities. Freedom carries responsibilities. As God said, if you are going to follow Him, you will pick up your cross as well. You do that as a nation, and our leaders need to understand that.
When we have people with influence, like Ashley Etienne on the Meet the Press panel, claiming Trump is disconnected from all of us, I say, these people truly speak through drunken eyes or wishful thinking.
Let us play Cut Three.
Audio Cut:
What was clear to me is that the president is disconnected from the reality of what people are going through in this country. He promised voters an America First agenda, and now you can see that frustration bubbling over with a president more concerned with political retribution than the economic state and pain of the American people. That interview engendered no confidence in the American people on his ability to transform not just what is happening in Iraq, but also the economy. You have a president who is asleep in the Oval Office, who says he does not even consider the economic state of the American people when dealing with these things. What you are seeing now is frustration not just among voters, but boiling over within the Republican Party on both sides of the chamber.
Peter Vazquez:
Asleep in the Oval Office. What is she referring to? Is that a metaphor?
Bob Savage:
They are accusing him of being non compos mentis and falling asleep. There is no evidence he is falling asleep. She said Iraq, by the way. Not that it matters, but she said Iraq. Details, details. Let us vent our Trump derangement syndrome. We cannot be worried about accuracy.
Caller:
Hey guys, how are you doing today?
Peter Vazquez:
Good.
Caller:
I feel like I have to push back against some of these anti-Israel callers. At the end of the day, most people who believe what is out there about how demonic Israel is, especially when they profess to be Christians, do not spend any time in the Old Testament.
You cannot read and understand the Old Testament and think God is done with Israel. God is going to be with Israel whether He agrees with what they do or not. He has shown that over the years, with 40 years in the desert and everything else. Israel and the Jews are going to be God’s chosen people regardless of how they behave. If you do not understand that, then your eschatology is wrong. If your eschatology is wrong, your political sights are going to be wrong too.
To think Netanyahu has Trump in his pocket is absurd. Trump is in nobody’s pocket. He is trying to do what is best for America. You cannot let these guys in Iran have a nuclear weapon. They will use it within the first ten minutes they have it. If you do not believe that, then you have been confused.
Bob Savage:
Equating Iran with Pakistan is willfully blind.
Caller:
The ayatollah’s goal is to bring the world into the Third World War, to create enough chaos for the Twelfth Imam to come back, which is the Antichrist. They all want to die and go be with their virgins. You cannot negotiate with somebody who wants you dead.
Bob Savage:
And who wants to be dead themselves. They are a death cult. They think God’s plan for humanity is for us all to kill ourselves and wipe out His work. That is insane.
Caller:
I love that Trump is trying to protect the Persian people from being killed. We should want him to do that. That is the only reason he is trying to get a deal. Otherwise, you go in and bomb them back to the Stone Age, because that is the only way you can deal with these guys as long as they are in leadership.
Peter Vazquez:
The part I think a lot of Americans are forgetting from 9/11 is when the Middle East said they were going to destroy us from within. They have not dropped nukes, as some callers suggested, because there are geopolitical consequences to that. So they destroy us from within: Mamdani, Dearborn, what is happening in Texas, the mayor of New York City, and the lack of one in New York.
Before I let you go, let me ask you. This is the Vanbōōlzalness I am seeing on the economy. These so-called leftist leaders say they are measuring the economy by the father filling the tank before work. But they do not want you to look at job growth or explain how we fix the bad so our kids can have jobs.
Caller:
Or the fact that gas was more expensive under Biden, which everybody conveniently forgets. Not everybody, just everybody in the media. Everybody thinks they would rather have cheap gas and not care if Iran has a nuclear weapon. Then you are a fool. You are a simple fool, and you are going to get your grandkids killed.
Peter Vazquez:
Youth for Christ Rochester is on Favor Street in the city of Rochester. Go to their website and volunteer. What was your website?
Caller:
Yfcrochester.org. Also, Keep Behind the Leader You Can Trust, and Good News Talk on many of these same stations.
Peter Vazquez:
I cannot wait until our next show together.
Caller:
We will do it soon, Peter.
Peter Vazquez:
Let us play one more cut.
Audio Cut:
Mark, how does it play with the president’s supporters in the Midwest and beyond?
Look, I think it is hard for Biden administration officials to question the president’s stamina this time around. Did you not see him asleep in the Oval Office several times? The challenge is that there are a lot of farmers in Middle America who have been hurt by the trade agenda, where suddenly you cannot export your products to other nations you used to because of the global trade war the president has. This is a difficult cycle and a daunting one for Republicans. The best thing they have going is that Democrats seem to nominate candidates who are Nazi candidates in Maine, people engaging in child sex trafficking, or in New Jersey, terrorist sympathizers. That is the benefit for Republicans.
Bob Savage:
That is the whole party he just described. That is what the left and Democrats have allowed into their platform.
Peter Vazquez:
What is he talking about with Trump sleeping in meetings? Maybe the guy is thinking and closes his eyes for a second.
But these people are pulling and stretching because they cannot argue it well. May 2026 jobs numbers showed payroll employment rose by 172,000. Unemployment remained unchanged at 4.3 percent. That is a good thing considering what is going on.
Gas prices are high because of the war. The economy responds to what is happening. But when you look at New York, California, and other blue states, gas prices are significantly higher than the national average. Nationally, around $4.16 on average; New York around $4.44 on average. That is not Trump. Rochester is around $4.50. Why is that? Trump does not run New York.
Bob Savage:
If the Democrats had been around during World War II, during Guadalcanal and North Africa, they would have called for the impeachment of FDR.
Peter Vazquez:
Tomorrow, I am going to pick up the rest of this conversation. Lines will be open then as well.
When I look at quotes from Trump, like, “If it was up to me, I would pay them the kind of money they deserve,” what do you think he was referring to, Bob?
Bob Savage:
No clue.
Peter Vazquez:
January 6 folks, with the anti-weaponization fund he is putting together. He was talking about people being compensated.
Bob Savage:
The left is scandalized by that.
Peter Vazquez:
They found something else they could say was bad. But Trump was right. People were committing suicide. Families were destroyed by the weaponization of the Biden camp. They do it here in New York.
Ladies and gentlemen, a free nation cannot survive outrage alone. Be a leader. Be a leader. Be a leader. God bless these United States of America. Do not go anywhere without being a voice for liberty.