Gregg Sadwick: The Real Cost of Political Promises

Gregg Sadwick: The Real Cost of Political Promises

The Next Steps Show with Peter Vazquez
Episode: 728
Original broadcast: October 21, 2026
Guest: Gregg Sadwick, U.S. Navy veteran and business owner
Also featuring: Bob Savage

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Full Episode Transcript

Opening: Leadership, Political Labels and the Public Trust

Peter Vazquez (00:00:00)
World that seems to change daily, what will you do next? Welcome to The Next Steps Show with Peter Vazquez, a starting point for discussion. Uh-huh. See? And that discussion is exactly where we're heading today, ladies and gentlemen, especially with our guest. Check this out. You know, you've heard him here before. You even heard him on TV at one point.

Peter Vazquez (00:00:25)
I'm sure you've been to his, place of business for something great because what he offers not just in the community, but what he offers in his business, right, is just as great to meet a ladies and gentlemen of familiar voice, the honorable Gregg Sadwick, president of Solid Services and Flower City Collision, US Navy veteran officer, if I remember correctly.

Bob Savage (00:00:46)
Correct.

Peter Vazquez (00:00:46)
Correct. And former congressional candidate for the 25th Congressional District. Brother, bienvenido again to The Next Steps Show. I think you even hosted the show for me a couple times, didn't you?

Gregg Sadwick (00:00:56)
I have first thanks that you grabbed me, on your show. It's always great to get together with you and renew that friendship. But, yeah, you asked me a couple times to, step in. One or two times you

Peter Vazquez (00:01:06)
appreciated it, and I remember when you didn't. I don't think I've ever not appreciated you hosting the show. I mean, I even appreciated it when you brought Jose Apio on this show.

Gregg Sadwick (00:01:14)
What are you talking about?

Peter Vazquez (00:01:16)
I'm just kidding. How is he doing these days? Have you seen him?

Gregg Sadwick (00:01:19)
Jose is doing great. He's got a day job, and he's, but he still stays active in his, in his stances. So Yeah. He does. Yeah. It's always good to get together with Jose.

Peter Vazquez (00:01:27)
You know, I still wonder why the guy is still a Democrat, really. I mean, especially when he posts stuff in social media, like, why are we just voting party lines? I'm like, dude, just stop already. Yeah. He's,

Gregg Sadwick (00:01:37)
yeah, a question whether he's a Democrat or not myself. Yeah. He's he's definitely has strong views.

Peter Vazquez (00:01:42)
Yeah. He does. Yeah. He does. Most of

Gregg Sadwick (00:01:43)
them are sound.

Peter Vazquez (00:01:44)
Well, they make sense. They're logical. Kinda like the stance that you had when you were running for the twenty fifth. And not right, but forward. Before... And I can't disagree with that. I do tend to be a little bit more right, Gregg, but only because, you know, I don't know if the center jives for too many people.

Peter Vazquez (00:02:06)
I don't think they understand. To be frank... And this isn't a diss on listeners. And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, lines are no... Are open. You can call me. You can beat me up and tell me. But I think that when you say things like that, like forward, I think that confuses people. I think society and the politics and what I call the vambooziness crisis has people thinking left and right only.

Gregg Sadwick (00:02:26)
Yeah. In the forward part, you know, I'm not a politician, but I was a politician during that time frame. And people hear that, and they think, well, here, that's just the line to fool me because you're really a Trumpster. You're really a hard right MAGA, a guy that's just masquerading as a centrist.

Peter Vazquez (00:02:43)
Well, that's because you're white, and all white people apparently are MAGA. But the thing is the people that say... They can't even say make America Great again. You know what I mean? If they were like, oh, shame on you for being make America great again affiliated. I can be like, okay. Well, at least you're not lying to people.

Gregg Sadwick (00:02:58)
Yeah. If I can go back into one comment because you're white, you're MAGA. I think a lot of the extremists on the other side are white, and they usually have gray hair or blue or purple hair and are usually of a different gender than I am. But, yeah, it takes all kinds.

Peter Vazquez (00:03:12)
That is an excellent point. And interestingly, Gregg, I was, at an event... A dinner campaign. It's a few campaigns ago. I wasn't smart like you, Gregg. I didn't know to stop and say, wait a minute. Let me reevaluate here and look at things. You know? I kept going, but I was on a... It became different for me because at that point, I was trying to discover whether or not things would change and... I mean, it's just weird the way the turnout always came out on racist. But, anyways, I was at this event, and the event was, it was about race. And they were highlighting the survey that they did for black America. So you figure if it's a...

Peter Vazquez (00:03:50)
An event for black and brown America and the survey is representing, you know, our views, right, in these communities that it would be a survey of people in black and brown America. Right?

Gregg Sadwick (00:04:01)
I

Peter Vazquez (00:04:02)
mean, am I off on this? Does that make sense? Is it logical? Logical. Okay. So I looked at the breakdown of the survey, and it was 98% white, and they... Because they categorized by race who responded. And I'm thinking, how does this represent? But most or many of the surveys that I see, the kind like that, especially coming politically, break down exactly the same way. So your comment about most of those people on the left that are pushing those crazy agendas with the purple hair and don't really look like who they say that they're representing is a 100% correct.

Gregg Sadwick (00:04:37)
Well, I think there's a no king's protest last weekend. It was

Peter Vazquez (00:04:39)
Yeah. The whole weekend.

Gregg Sadwick (00:04:41)
Unless you see the YouTubes of that, it's it's all that demographic.

Peter Vazquez (00:04:45)
Every single one of them there.

Gregg Sadwick (00:04:47)
It's It's crazy.

Peter Vazquez (00:04:48)
Is the most... Well, again, the most biggest lie. Yes, sir. National Churchill? Reporting for duty. Hey. You haven't said much this morning.

Bob Savage (00:04:59)
I haven't had a chance.

Peter Vazquez (00:05:00)
I mean, I mean, you're

Gregg Sadwick (00:05:02)
talking about the demographic. Those are all the girls he went to high school with. Oh. That's all his generation. True. Right? The people in the seventies.

Bob Savage (00:05:08)
This is what we call two zero one, ladies and gentlemen, so enjoy it during your lunch.

Peter Vazquez (00:05:14)
Everybody good in your family, in your life?

Bob Savage (00:05:17)
I don't have any family. Oh, no. That's not true.

Peter Vazquez (00:05:19)
You have a beautiful wife I

Bob Savage (00:05:20)
have a beautiful wife. Respect. Of course.

Peter Vazquez (00:05:22)
You have

Bob Savage (00:05:22)
a beautiful, son who's doing very well down in New York City, and that's not an easy thing to do.

Family, Faith and Personal Responsibility

Bob Savage (00:05:28)
Uh-huh.

Peter Vazquez (00:05:28)
Breathing fresh air. You know, I do wanna pause for a second, guys, because I did lose a stepdaughter, and I do wanna take at least half seven years.

Bob Savage (00:05:35)
Our condolences for that, Peter. Sorry about that.

Peter Vazquez (00:05:38)
And I try not to bring up too many of these things, but, you know, I have to because, you know, she died of liver failure, 32 years old. She lost her first kidney, before she was even two years old. And, you know, I guess the thing is this, and I... I'm... Now I'm talking to parents and stepparent as well because the stepparents, Gregg and Bob, sometimes, you know, we get kinda reduced a little bit in our role legally. Right? So when you see a big issue, it's kinda hard to step in and say, I'm going to help you, and all you can do is rely on words and faith. But to all the parents out there, listen. You gotta role, man.

Peter Vazquez (00:06:12)
And when you see a child in need, it is so important for you to step up, especially over this. This is biblical now. You need to step up. And if me... Means you need to physically pick up your child and take him somewhere for help, then that's exactly what you need to do. Easier

Bob Savage (00:06:28)
said than done these days, Peter. I mean It is. They can call the cops on you, and, you know, all kinds of things can happen.

Peter Vazquez (00:06:34)
But, you know, there are legal remedies if you can prove legally. Like, my daughter didn't have a... My son daughter, she didn't have a kidney. So drinking was, like, the number one thing that the doctor said when they did this that she shouldn't do. Well, that's what killed her was drinking so much. And, I mean, that's obviously an indicator of bigger stuff. And I share these personal things, guys, like this on the air because I hope that somebody somewhere listening says, you know, I'm not gonna let that happen to mine even if it is hard to do.

Bob Savage (00:07:03)
Peter, you're not feeling guilty about this. Right?

Peter Vazquez (00:07:06)
I mean, listen. I think at one point, we all have to stop and reflect and sit back and say, well, wait a minute. What could have I done different? What could have I done better? What could have I possibly shared so that the community at large? Right? Because we all talk about working. What is that, it takes a village to raise a kid or something like that?

Gregg Sadwick (00:07:24)
Bunch of hard work. It is a healthy holiday. I think

Peter Vazquez (00:07:26)
this situation is a perfect example of that.

Gregg Sadwick (00:07:30)
Yeah. It does take some intervention early, identification. But, yeah, as a step parent myself, I understand what you're saying. You're kind of in the back seat, but you kinda... You know, where do you draw that line? It's tough.

Peter Vazquez (00:07:42)
I told all my kids, and sometimes I wonder whether... You know, and I explained it to them. But I always say, listen. I don't wanna be your friend. I wanna be your father. I'm not gonna console you just... You know, when you have a bad time, I'm gonna find you help. I'm gonna work with you, and that's the advice, and that's why I bring this up.

Bob Savage (00:07:56)
I see a lot of that, by the way. I see a lot of parents who are... You know, they wanna be best buddies.

Peter Vazquez (00:08:01)
I do. That's like a new thing. I'm like, what are you doing? Who cares? I mean, your kid's not supposed to be your best friend. They're not supposed to like you.

Gregg Sadwick (00:08:09)
Well, that time will come. You know, my boys are in their thirties right now, and they're they're my best friends. Just in this That's

Peter Vazquez (00:08:14)
a great feeling.

Bob Savage (00:08:15)
Great. Oh, that's that's great. Yep. When they get older.

Peter Vazquez (00:08:18)
You know, thanks guys for the little deviation on what we're talking because, again, it was a message of hope. It was a message to remember my stepdaughter, Monica Merced, you know. And ladies and gentlemen, please keep her and her family in prayers in this time of healing. A beautiful soul lost way too long. And if people... Some people know my stories because I don't hide. There's no reason to hide it. People learn. Right? We're all influencers. And so people can understand the bigger picture.

Political Promises and the Responsibility to Serve

Peter Vazquez (00:08:45)
But back to why we're here. Gregg Sadwick. Sir, you wanna talk politics?

Gregg Sadwick (00:08:49)
I wanna talk. Is there anything to talk about? There's really nothing going on in the world that, wants, you know, to have a discussion.

Peter Vazquez (00:08:55)
Let me start off by sharing a Malcolm X quote real quick. I was gonna play the clip, but it's too long. He said, politic, politically, the American Negro is nothing but a football. In God's judgment of white America, he said this in December 4. What do you think about that? I would agree

Gregg Sadwick (00:09:13)
with that from one side... One perspective.

Peter Vazquez (00:09:15)
Mhmm.

Gregg Sadwick (00:09:15)
You know, the black community keeps getting, all these promises from the Democrat party, but here we are, what, it's probably fifty years since that quote was made, and nothing's changed.

Peter Vazquez (00:09:26)
Nothing's changed. Well changing. You know what I've noticed has gotten worse? Is the lies coming from the left because that same speech is... He issues a warning. And he issues a warning and, obviously, this is all a race based type of discussion he was having at the time. Right? But he said, listen. There are right liberals out there, and there are white conservative... Conservatives out there. He did say they were both racist, but he also said this. He said at least the white conservatives know how to tell you the truth.

Peter Vazquez (00:09:56)
They're gonna call you whatever they're gonna call you, but they're gonna make sure you're doing okay at least enough so that everybody can make some money or something along those lines. And he warned that the liberals gonna lie to you, make pretend you're your friend, and try to get your votes because that's what's happening now.

Gregg Sadwick (00:10:12)
Yeah. And I would often tell people the difference between Biden and Trump because people felt good with Biden. He makes me feel good. Yeah. But while he's looking you in your eye, he's stealing out of your back pocket and making you feel good about it. Whereas Trump is bombastic and he's in your face to make sure you feel uncomfortable and you don't like it, at least he's telling you the truth.

Peter Vazquez (00:10:28)
Yeah. He is. And that's the one thing that I appreciate, you know, about people regardless of whether on the left or right to run for office that are just candid. Unfortunately, though, people that say the truth get dismissed by both sides.

Gregg Sadwick (00:10:40)
By both sides.

Peter Vazquez (00:10:41)
Which what makes the middle complicated.

Gregg Sadwick (00:10:43)
And you and I both run. So we have that... You know, we can talk firsthand about it. It's difficult to... Honestly, it's difficult to be truthful, but it's difficult to take that stance knowing that, yeah, it's actually hurting me because I'm being honest with people.

Peter Vazquez (00:10:56)
Yeah. Isn't that nuts to how many people... See, that's one of the reasons why I struggle sometimes with the whole identification of a party affiliation, even though I know we have to. We have to pick a side when you run for office, unfortunately. And, it just sometimes ideologically, I look at both, and I'm like, but wait a minute. Where is the fundamental value of the work that you're supposed to be doing? You know, the committee membership is an elected official, and I've never heard a committee leader anywhere, anytime in my fifty four year... Okay. My twenty something years of being involved, come out and teach them.

Peter Vazquez (00:11:30)
Come out and actually show that. Come out and work with committee members, and this is on both sides, and teach them that these rules are civic duties that are elected officials and you're representing people, and it requires engagement.

Peter Vazquez (00:11:45)
There's no engagement. There's less

Gregg Sadwick (00:11:48)
and less this time is on.

Peter Vazquez (00:11:49)
How about I wanna talk a little bit about a politician that does some engagement over in the twenty fourth and show some highlights of what we're seeing going on because what she talks about is exactly what's happening in almost every district, congressional district in the state.

Recorded audio / production clip (00:12:03)
We'll talk to you when we

Peter Vazquez (00:12:04)
get back. It hasn't changed since you ran. We'll be right back right here in The Next Steps Show, guys. The lines are open. I'm on social media. It's me, Peter Vazquez, right here in The Next Steps Show.

Civic Engagement and New York's Congressional Debate

Peter Vazquez (00:13:49)
Yeah. You know, guys, I'll tell you that YFC Rochester, Mike Hennessy, actually, on the thirtieth of this month, he's gonna be joining me. We try to do a... What we call a combined show where I'll... He'll sit on my show and I sit on his show. But, you know, Gregg, that's one guy who with no political dollars whatsoever is making more of an impact in our communities that politicians are saying, don't worry about them. And Democrats are saying, just give them money.

Gregg Sadwick (00:14:15)
Yeah. Mike does a great job running his organization. He sure does. His only agenda is to help. Yeah. And that's, there's too few people like that.

Peter Vazquez (00:14:23)
So, Gregg, I've been pushing, for the last few, months at least, you know, this, mantra of encouraging people to vote. And I'm asking people to vote, red, whether it's on the conservative line or in the Republican line because I believe that the alternative is heading somewhere that, well, that I don't think is good for America.

Peter Vazquez (00:14:49)
And the DSA is gaining too much ground in influence. Even if it's not translating to votes this election, it will in future elections. And we need people in place that at the very least can serve as a, as a conduit to that message. And I wanted to go through the 24th Congressional District's debate and some other issues that I wanna tie into there because... See, I think your perspective as a business owner, understanding how tough it is in this state, understanding how tough it is to find good employees.

Peter Vazquez (00:15:24)
And when I say good employees, I mean, employees that come to work, that wanna work, that have a good ethics, that are not robbing you when you're not looking, that... You know, you... That kind of employee. And we've got a lot of them. But this mantra from the left is hurting us quite a bit. And I thought this twenty fourth congressional district debate, especially the Democrat contender who wears a veteran hat. She's character. She is the character. Presentation

Gregg Sadwick (00:15:50)
she put on.

Peter Vazquez (00:15:51)
And that... That's why I chose this because there's so many debates going on now. I mean, what we got going on, I can... I could sit on Fox News and... Or even the American thinker and get topics all day long. Right? But this hits home for me. I'm gonna start off with a cut. Can we just go ahead with cut one, please? You mean two? Cut.

Bob Savage (00:16:12)
Two? With the list you gave me, you have cut two.

Peter Vazquez (00:16:15)
I'm sorry. No. It's cut. Not cut one.

Bob Savage (00:16:19)
Okay. Alright. I see what you're doing.

Peter Vazquez (00:16:21)
Segment two.

Bob Savage (00:16:21)
Go ahead. Little confusing. Alright.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:16:23)
Eddie Vance out there saying just give us two more years. My question to you

Gregg Sadwick (00:16:27)
is what can Republicans do in the

Recorded broadcast audio (00:16:28)
next two years that you haven't been able to do in the last two years?

Recorded broadcast audio (00:16:31)
Yeah. Well, first of all, we had inflation at about 9% persistently for almost four years under Joe Biden. We had an open border. We brought millions of people in here. 10,000,000, 20,000,000, we're not even sure of the real number, came across our border, our northern border, have come here as illegal immigrants. The new... New York state has given benefits and, you know, whether it's food and housing and used taxpayer dollars to pay for those immigrants to the tune of about $8,000,000,000. Right now, inflation is at a fifty year low. It's actually less than 3%. We've actually brought costs down in many cases.

Peter Vazquez (00:17:06)
And they have brought costs down. I mean, I'm feeling the cost is coming down even though in some areas for very specific issues, prices are up. I do feel a little safer understanding that our nation isn't gonna be, you know, a nuke's gonna drop on it today because of what's happening.

Tariffs, Consumer Confidence and the Cost of Business

Peter Vazquez (00:17:22)
But right now, in the clip that we just heard, the contender, Almond, I think her name was. Right? She's trying to tie... Well, you didn't hear this part. You heard her. But what Tani was responding to was Almond trying to tie household and farm calls to tariffs, fuel, and the Iran conflict, which makes no sense

Gregg Sadwick (00:17:40)
to me. Well, if I can get back to that point in a second because tariffs are back in my business.

Peter Vazquez (00:17:46)
Okay. Good.

Gregg Sadwick (00:17:47)
But the one thing They're

Peter Vazquez (00:17:47)
not good, but, I mean, your experience is what I want.

Gregg Sadwick (00:17:50)
But the inflation part, you know, I... I've seen charts in the inflation that the things that are experiencing most inflation are the things that are funded or supported by government, medical, education. But yet things like consumer electronics, prices are down. And it's just ironic that inflation is being caused by things that the government has a hand in, and there's that left side that the TSA wants more government involvement. But yet they wanna bring prices down. There's a conflict. I don't think they really understand how that works. But back to tariffs. So tariffs are actually impacting my business.

Gregg Sadwick (00:18:22)
And I think too many times we look at the short term view. And even though it's hurting us right now, gas prices are hurting us right now, the long term view is we need to make... Because we weren't making these little corrections all along over the last forty years. We need to make big corrections right now to get back on path. And tariffs, have increased the price of the product that I'm buying right now and fabricating, and it's increased kitchen costs, countertop costs by at least 20%.

Peter Vazquez (00:18:50)
Mhmm.

Gregg Sadwick (00:18:51)
And as people are struggling to pay bills, that's not a luxury item. So, yeah, it has an impact. But, also, there's so many positives that are... That we gotta focus on without the policies of what's going on right now, and I agree with congresswoman Tenney.

Peter Vazquez (00:19:13)
Right. She's not very much in the middle of things, you know, as much of her discussions would go. But the thing is you're feeling the real pain of tariffs. Now let me... You know, philosophical, I guess, or at least opinion. Right now, much of the, well, much of the reason why as stated by this administration, the costs are so high is the war in Iran. How as a business owner, how much does that war matter to you?

Gregg Sadwick (00:19:39)
The war the war itself doesn't matter, but I think the consumer confidence that comes along with that endeavor, I think that's impacting people right now. Mhmm. It's kinda funny. I share with people that, you know, people are a little apprehensive to buy right now, and they're waiting for the election. And if the Republicans win, people are gonna start buying again. If the Democrats win, people are gonna start buying again. So we're gonna get caught up in the election, but at the end of the day, economy's gonna move forward. Congress isn't gonna do a darn thing because they're... You know, think about our congress.

Gregg Sadwick (00:20:13)
You know, the senate and the house, the Republicans have had for the last two years. Mhmm. And really nothing has been done. I mean, Trump came up with all his executive orders, and very few of them have been codified in the law. And they could be overturned when an... You know, the... For president of a different party comes in. Mhmm. So congress is, they got their work cut out for them. And how can we not pass, like, the Save Act? I mean, it's just crazy. 80% of America wants that. 85% of America wants it, but Congress can't pass what America wants. Are they really representing us? So it's... That's the challenges.

Peter Vazquez (00:20:46)
That actually brings up a great point. Because why isn't it passed? Because I think we control... And, again, you know, I don't... But we control the senate and the house. But there are a swath of Republicans who call themselves conservatives that over the years, and many of them have been there for a while, have kind of aligned with some of the, mantra of the left.

Gregg Sadwick (00:21:11)
Yeah. I don't wanna say, wolfs and... What is it?

Peter Vazquez (00:21:14)
Oh, I call them rhinos. Clothing, but, yeah, rhinos. Sheep closings, rhinos.

Gregg Sadwick (00:21:18)
We also gotta understand. I mean, their districts are in the balance, and they need to they need to represent their districts. It's not representing the party, and if that's what their district wants

Peter Vazquez (00:21:27)
But isn't that lying?

Political Identity, Markets and Economic Opportunity

Peter Vazquez (00:21:30)
Isn't that deceiving someone to get a vote if the reason why your language... I mean, from the whole time I've known you, Gregg, you have been consistent in your message, and your message has always been middle of the road. It's always been business minded. It's always been focused on country and family. You haven't deviated from that in any discussion that we've had, and you ran on that. Good, right, or bad, and so did I. So... And someone did tell me once Peter register as a as a Democrat, run as a Democrat. And I'm like, but if I do, I'm gonna have to tell people things that aren't true. Like, I can't support abortion.

Peter Vazquez (00:22:10)
Not even a little bit. And I, you know, whether you do or don't is not the point. But I can. So for me to go run, right, in a heavy Democrat district, I would have to support something like that, which is what... Again, why I struggle with politicians saying things specific to their district.

Gregg Sadwick (00:22:27)
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you've misunderstood my comment, though. If her district doesn't want... Let's say Susan Collins. Mhmm. Her district doesn't want that, then she should be voting what her district wants. She should be voting

Peter Vazquez (00:22:37)
Or not right.

Gregg Sadwick (00:22:38)
Against her district because her party wants something else. Yeah.

Peter Vazquez (00:22:42)
That's

Gregg Sadwick (00:22:42)
not how the system should be working.

Peter Vazquez (00:22:44)
That is absolutely not

Gregg Sadwick (00:22:45)
Alice's system. Yeah. Because it's not working that way at all. Everyone has to put their jerseys on and vote on their side. Wait.

Peter Vazquez (00:22:51)
Are you saying Tenney didn't... Or who didn't vote for the save act? Do you know off the top of your head?

Gregg Sadwick (00:22:55)
Susan Collins.

Peter Vazquez (00:22:55)
Susan Collins. Susan Collins. Yeah.

Gregg Sadwick (00:22:57)
In, the Alaska Center, I think she didn't either.

Peter Vazquez (00:23:00)
Yeah. Yeah. Two very blue states. See, I think people like that, if they can't stand true... And I don't know. I didn't look at the reasons why they didn't vote. Actually, I don't think very many people in congress, elected officials offer explanations on how they vote all the time. And I don't believe Claudia Attenney does. Claudia Attenney does.

Gregg Sadwick (00:23:20)
Her website's one of the better ones that shows that.

Peter Vazquez (00:23:22)
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. She absolutely does. Nuclear power, does that have any impact in any of your businesses? Nuclear

Bob Savage (00:23:30)
power? Yeah.

Gregg Sadwick (00:23:31)
No. But it hopefully will someday.

Peter Vazquez (00:23:33)
You think?

Gregg Sadwick (00:23:34)
You know, I think we have... We've, we're trying to be green, and that's an opportunity. And we're... Our last plant we built? Thirty plus years ago?

Peter Vazquez (00:23:42)
I think we've closed

Bob Savage (00:23:43)
some, actually. We've closed some.

Peter Vazquez (00:23:44)
Yeah. What about green energy? I mean, the whole concept of, solar power and windmills. I mean, you've got property over at one of your businesses. Like, three or four windmills would probably power you for the rest of its life.

Gregg Sadwick (00:23:57)
Yeah. And if the market's avoiding that, if the price would outweigh the benefit outweigh the price, well, that would happen. I mean, the mark... I believe in the markets, the three markets.

Peter Vazquez (00:24:06)
When we get back, we're gonna see what these two candidates have to say about nuclear energy and how that impacts us. Ladies and gentlemen, it's me, Peter Vazquez. See, I came with Gregg Sadwick, president of Solid Surface and Flower City Collision, US Navy veteran, former congressional candidate for the twenty fifth, a guy I get to call a friend. Listen. Don't change that dial. We'll be right back right here in the voice of liberty with Peter Vazquez on The Next Steps Show with minds open and social media for you.

The NY-24 Debate and Nuclear Energy

Peter Vazquez (00:30:06)
They're coming back. A key to The Next Steps Show. It is my honor, see, ladies and gentlemen, to bring to you once again. See? Gregg Sadwick, president of Solid Services. Another business. Right? Because these are two different businesses. It's not the same one. It's Solid Surfaces, Flower City Collision.

Gregg Sadwick (00:30:23)
Correct. I was looking for two... Three... The three c's, Peter. Comps, Collision, and Congress. The congress.... Down are the two c's.

Peter Vazquez (00:30:29)
I hate... Listen, though. The two c's are paying your bill.

Gregg Sadwick (00:30:33)
They're employing a lot of families.

Peter Vazquez (00:30:34)
Yep. They... They're also allowing you to do things in the community, right, that good people do. So I appreciate that. How do people learn about your businesses if they need a countertop or a flower city? And by the way, I bought both my granite and my, no, dear. Of course, I'm gonna forget what the other one... The other high end one.

Gregg Sadwick (00:30:53)
Is it quartz product?

Peter Vazquez (00:30:54)
Quartz. Yep. For... From your from your place.

Gregg Sadwick (00:30:57)
Well, thank you. Both of them can be found at, one's at www.solidsurfacesny.com, and the other as advertised on this station at, flowercitycollision.com.

Bob Savage (00:31:10)
Yeah. A lot of deer out there, so bear Flower City Collision in mind. It's a... I'll tell you. It's, it... You know, you have you have to play dodge them out there on the roads at sunset.

Peter Vazquez (00:31:21)
I love

Gregg Sadwick (00:31:21)
deer and Amazon drivers. Yeah. Because we do a lot of work for Amazon. Most drivers hit everything.

Peter Vazquez (00:31:26)
Well, you So take

Bob Savage (00:31:27)
a look at the vans. I mean, they're all, like, beaten, you know, perdition.

Peter Vazquez (00:31:31)
Well, they're they're electric. I mean, I think a rock being blown by a wind causes some major damage to those things, probably.

Gregg Sadwick (00:31:39)
And we do a lot of... We're electric certified with Rivian and Tesla. So

Peter Vazquez (00:31:44)
Really? We

Gregg Sadwick (00:31:44)
work on a bunch of those. Yeah.

Peter Vazquez (00:31:45)
You know, good to know. And I do have... I do have... No. You don't do mechanic work, just body work. Correct. Okay. I remember that. Nuclear energy. I said we're gonna see what these two candidates have to say. And I found, again, I found these two candidates interesting because, Elman, you know, again, she had a veteran head on. Apparently, she served in the military at one point. She accused Tenny of just simply not being, you know, a person who cares about our community, and energy was one of the things that they brought up. Tenny argues reliability and keeping the lights on. Elman says,

Bob Savage (00:32:23)
whatever you're referring to, Alyssa Elman who's a Democrat candidate. Yes. Okay.

Gregg Sadwick (00:32:27)
I mean,

Peter Vazquez (00:32:27)
I didn't say that in the beginning. No. You know what? Just so that everybody knew. Thank you for mentioning that. What's what's what's, what's Claudia Tenney's first name?

Bob Savage (00:32:36)
Claudia Tenney. Claudia. Yeah. Just wanna make

Peter Vazquez (00:32:39)
sure everybody heard that one. You know, listen. I'm sorry, guys. You know, I posted this vote red meme on my, on my Facebook. Right? Because I'm tired. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, you can't vote Democrat. And I'm telling you that as a Hispanic. I'm telling you that as a as a... As a... As an American, but not because I'm Hispanic, not because of any reason other than the fact I love this country. I started getting beat up. One person even posted and said, oh my god. With your last name, you're gonna vote red? And what about ice? And I'm thinking, what are you talking about? Yeah. Why does

Gregg Sadwick (00:33:14)
it always come down to race? We're going back to the, that murder trial with the mother and the three kids and the one juror who

Bob Savage (00:33:21)
who, voted no held out.

Gregg Sadwick (00:33:24)
And held out. He was he was a black male. And who is it? Sunny Houston or whatever name is on the view. Well, I know.

Bob Savage (00:33:29)
People are like, oh,

Gregg Sadwick (00:33:30)
I gotta rethink about this one. That makes no sense. Yeah. Why is the individual's color matter? Justice.

Bob Savage (00:33:36)
Because when it comes to the global left, Gregg, whatever... What... They try to exploit, whatever, you know, ethnic or historic, prejudices exist. That's what, Hitler did with the Jews, and that's what has happened in Eastern Europe, with George Soros and his furry woodland creatures.

Peter Vazquez (00:33:54)
Well, that's what Kathy Hochul is doing in New York state. Remember, she didn't even she didn't even mention Mamdani's name much during his campaign if you remember. None of them did. And now they're practically sleeping together. At least you'd think they are because, I mean, something's happening there because now they're

Bob Savage (00:34:12)
I was with each other. Keep on eating lunch, please.

Peter Vazquez (00:34:15)
I'm... I didn't mean anything. Sleep is single. That's not It does.

Gregg Sadwick (00:34:18)
It's not that's not that. Make you wanna escape somewhere like Paris. So just to get away from Oh, yeah. Oh, man. I know.

Bob Savage (00:34:23)
Paris. Absolutely.

Peter Vazquez (00:34:25)
Although, you know something, though? I've seen video, in Paris of people having coffee during the... During those riots, right, that is still ongoing. We... I've seen people jogging. Right? That... That's how normalized that nonsense have become. And Mira, that's coming to a neighborhood near you. Look at Dearborn, Michigan. Look at Minnesota.

Bob Savage (00:34:46)
Hey. Look at Rochester. Cup five.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:34:49)
And do you support the expansion of nuclear energy in New York State, miss Alma?

Recorded broadcast audio (00:34:53)
It really depends. It really depends. There's a lot of nuance in this. I like green energy. You know? Nuclear power is a part of that green energy. It's a great power source, but it also has a really serious carbon footprint that we have to be thinking about. And it has serious environmental impacts, from disposal of nuclear waste, and it doesn't always provide really high paying jobs for people who actually live here.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:35:21)
And in fact, they gotta import people from out of state oftentimes to run these Nuclear power plants. So I would have to see a very detailed plan on that and a plan, a fifty year plan, not a... Not an instant gratification plan, but something for the whole life cycle of a Nuclear power plant.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:35:39)
Miss Ehlmann, thank you. Congressman Tenney, forty five seconds. Thank you.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:35:42)
I support Nuclear power plants a 100%. All of the Nuclear power plants that are operational in the state of New York are in New York 24. We get emission free baseload power from nuclear. It's about 20 to 28 of our entire energy grid in the state of New York. If it weren't for the Nuclear power, the lights would go out, and especially in Upstate New York. Again, I can't emphasize enough. My opponent is against fossil fuels, Nuclear power, all the things that we keep our lights on. She wants to find solutions for people in our communities and give them jobs and prosperity.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:36:12)
Nothing does hurts that more than the expensive, unaffordable energy that she's talking about. Nuclear energy is a godsend for us. If we didn't have it, literally, our state would shut down. We should open up, Indian Point again. It was wrongly shut down by governor Cuomo, and governor Hochul keeps it closed.

Peter Vazquez (00:36:30)
You know, I'm sorry. I chuckle at these people sometimes only because I was a candidate, and I understand how nerve wracking it can be to sit in one of those things. I mean, my first debate... Listen. I don't wanna remind people, but boy, I think the first thing that I said was, oh, jeez, because I forgot my opening statement. So I get it. But the thing is these people that are that are running, especially these people on the left, you know, they... I... When they say think... I mean, come on. Give me a plan. You ran. How would you answer that question, Gregg?

Gregg Sadwick (00:37:01)
Very similar to Claudia. But the thing that struck out me and this was with her response,

Peter Vazquez (00:37:05)
when

Gregg Sadwick (00:37:05)
she said the jobs. Mhmm. K. We're bringing people to run our Nuclear power plants. Solar. That... Those panels just sit out in the field. Yeah. Who... How many operators are there? How many jobs are created by someone that's, operating a solar farm? I'm gonna suggest far less.

Peter Vazquez (00:37:22)
Well, let me suggest this, because they're going on farmland for the most part. Right? And a lot of these liberals are saying, well, wait a minute. You know, these, immigrants, the illegal ones especially, are coming here to take jobs that Americans don't want, which is... You know, and they highlight farming. But farmland is being reduced.

Energy Policy and Environmental Tradeoffs

Peter Vazquez (00:37:41)
Rural America is being reduced by all these things.

Gregg Sadwick (00:37:44)
One of that side has a problem with you. You keep pointing out the hypocrisy.

Peter Vazquez (00:37:48)
I, you know, I try not to. I know, you know, I should be up to

Gregg Sadwick (00:37:52)
plain sight, so it's it's difficult not to.

Peter Vazquez (00:37:54)
Well, you know, my father told me I'm gonna... You know, it's my mouth that's gonna get me in trouble. So I figured, okay. I'm gonna invest in being a radio host, and why not?

Gregg Sadwick (00:38:01)
So it seems like, you know, the, they're talking about... They have to hear about these smaller travelable Nuclear power plants. Mhmm.

Bob Savage (00:38:08)
SMRs. Small modular reactors. Thank you. I mean

Peter Vazquez (00:38:12)
Of course, he would know.

Gregg Sadwick (00:38:13)
He would know. Smart, Alex. Long as he's smarter. But, I mean, that's a... Would you rather have that or a huge solar farm that's producing far less electricity, far less power? If we can make it safe... I mean, Nuclear power's been pretty safe.

Bob Savage (00:38:30)
It's it's a 100% safe. And the SMRs, by the way, there... There's no fuel disposal problem. Eleman's, conception of what a nuclear plant is like is about fifty years out of date. She doesn't know what she's talking about. The technology now is completely different. In her mind, I

Gregg Sadwick (00:38:46)
could see she's got the vision of the Simpsons where they're going over the bridge, and there's those two huge Nuclear power plants.

Peter Vazquez (00:38:52)
She kinda look she kinda look like one of the Simpsons, actually. That hat, though, I'll tell you. Bob, you shared a picture on WASO's, social media at one point when you were driving up from the... In the Southern tier Yes. Graveyard. I think you called it that, a graveyard

Bob Savage (00:39:09)
Which is what it was.

Peter Vazquez (00:39:09)
Windmills. You remember what you saw there?

Bob Savage (00:39:12)
Yes. Absolutely. We had the pictures of it on the website even. We were driving by. We're coming back from New York seeing our sun, and we... We're looking in... Here's these massive stacks right along Route, 15, and Route 17 down in Bath Of blades and the, you know, the pylons, the pedestals for these 300 foot high, windmills.

Bob Savage (00:39:33)
There is no way to dispose of that material. And what they do is when they made deals with farmers for wind farms, because they're they're the people who have all the land, They try to pick a site that has plenty of burial ground space because that's what they do.

Bob Savage (00:39:51)
They just dig giant holes in the ground and put all the worn out windmills and then cover it up. And let's let somebody worry about this seventy five years down the road.

Peter Vazquez (00:40:02)
What about the environment? That's the hope of this having the green

Bob Savage (00:40:05)
As late Jim Quinn used to say, you know, if there's an environmental catastrophe that affects the human race, it's gonna be an environmentalist who are at fault.

Peter Vazquez (00:40:13)
Mhmm.

Gregg Sadwick (00:40:14)
So it should be a what? It's a new one.

Bob Savage (00:40:16)
It'll it'll be... The environmentalists will have brought that out, all the environmental disasters, because all their solutions are worse than the problem.

Peter Vazquez (00:40:24)
Have you guys seen the base of one of those windmills? Like, what they have to put down in the ground just to hold... I mean, we're talking an enormous amount of steel here. Is this steel bad for the environment when it's in the ground? I don't know. I

Bob Savage (00:40:36)
don't know. But there's a... An environmental... When you're when you're smelting that much steel and rolling that steel, and then that steel has to be, you know, transported to a construction site, there's a carbon footprint associated

Peter Vazquez (00:40:48)
with that. Kinda like the jets that those environmentalists drive in and the cars that they're cruising off. They all had horse and buggies and lived in houses that had, candles. I would say, okay. Maybe you got a valid statement. I could I could look a little closer. Did you say something about hypocrisy? Yeah. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, (585) 346-3000. Meetup, we got one more segment, a couple more. Well, a couple more cuts too. Don't go nowhere. We'll be right back right here on the voice of Liberty Network c with Peter Vazquez in The Next Steps Show.

Peter Vazquez (00:41:21)
See Gregg Sadwick, and, of course, I'm gonna say it again, Bob, the national treasure of Bob Sadwick. A. I could be you

Bob Savage (00:41:32)
to someone. W l e a.

Affordability, Families and the Cost of Living

Peter Vazquez (00:42:50)
Give us a call. Here's Peter. You know, guys, I'll tell you. I find affordability to be such an interesting, topic. Don't you guys find that an interesting? I mean, isn't that relative?

Gregg Sadwick (00:43:01)
Well, it's probably the most important topic to every... Everyone in their everyday life.

Peter Vazquez (00:43:05)
Well, I mean, I guess. But, I mean, it... It's subjective, though, because your affordability or what you would consider affordability is different than what I would consider affordability. And, of course, you know, the both of us would consider it different than Bob, the national treasure, because, you know, he's he's the national treasure. But the point that I'm making here is it's it's a relative statement. I'd look at something. I saw... Okay. I'm selling a piece of property. The piece of property is about 800 and... I'm asking $824.09 for this Lake House property. Worth it? Did my due diligence.

Peter Vazquez (00:43:39)
I know that's what it's worth around there. Willing to negotiate. People are calling me greedy. But how is it greedy? Because if you can afford it, then you can buy it. It's affordable. If you can't afford a bit

Gregg Sadwick (00:43:51)
People are affording it.

Peter Vazquez (00:43:52)
People are affording it. So if you can't afford it, but then does it make it unaffordable, or does it just make it that, well, maybe I need to work a little harder to get where I'm going?

Gregg Sadwick (00:44:01)
Yeah. You know, I used to have a hard mind like that, but I'm I'm softened up. It's tough out there.

Peter Vazquez (00:44:06)
Oh, I'm glad you said that. Capitalism, socialism. What's the difference?

Gregg Sadwick (00:44:11)
Well, one of the market's gonna decide, and the other of the government's gonna decide. I'm still on the side of the market.

Peter Vazquez (00:44:15)
Alright. We're gonna we're gonna take this from the approach of Medicare, though, just because it seems to be a little bit more familiar to people in business. See, cup, two.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:44:23)
This, I will never vote to give up good for perfect. We have to find a solution. And, you know, I did wanna say I'm absolutely not a socialist. I'm a capitalist. I live in this country. I fought for this country. And right now, we have a lot of problems that everybody wants to throw their hands up and pretend that we can't solve. We can solve these issues. America is the most innovative country in the planet. We can come together and find a solution for the cost of health insurance and to make people's health care better.

Property Rights, Childcare and Helping the Next Generation

Recorded broadcast audio (00:45:03)
Miss Yalman, thank you. Congresswoman Taney?

Recorded broadcast audio (00:45:05)
Yeah. Thank you so much. And I do that every day. I solve problems. I serve on the most powerful committee in congress, the house, ways, and means committee. You know, Medicare for all would bankrupt New York state. You're... It would probably be double. Our budget today is $277,000,000,000 $277,000,000,000 42% of that is Medicaid. We have huge fraud, abuse, and waste. Medicare for all would be... Would mean our budget would go up to about double of $277,000,000,000 a year. That is not a solution. That is socialism, and that is what is advocated by the Working Families Party and Democrats in New York state.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:45:40)
So if she doesn't agree with the Working Families Party, then she should disavow that line and not run on it. And if she doesn't agree with the Democratic Party, then she should disavow that line because they are standing with the socialist. They're standing with the communist in New York. The Working Families Party also states that you should lose your private property. That's a founding principle of our constitution. Freedom is essential to having private property.

Peter Vazquez (00:46:05)
You know, in that last statement that Claudia made, I agree with that a 100%. I'll tell you my father always said he who owns, right, dictates the rules, and you become slave to those rules when you don't own something. And to me, as a Hispanic, as a guy who grew up in the... In the ghetto. Right? Because by all statistical values, I shouldn't be having this conversation with you, Gregg. Right? By all statistical values and by some of the comments that I get in the stuff that I post, you are one of those people that are well beyond my reach simply because of where I came from, my skin color, and where you came from, your skin color.

Peter Vazquez (00:46:43)
That's what they preach. Now I wanna be clear on something, though, for our listeners. This isn't a promotion for Claudio Tenney or any politician for that matter. As a matter of fact, I think, Gregg, you, like me, would prefer to see new ideas, fresh ideas, but we have what we have, and we gotta work with it. And the alternative, to what we have... Well, you know what? It's a it's a burn. It's what we saw in France because that will happen here.

Gregg Sadwick (00:47:10)
Yes, sir.

Peter Vazquez (00:47:11)
That will absolutely happen here. But when it comes to socialism and capitalism, and right before I played this clip, I think you hit the nail on the head. Things are tough, which is what makes the DSA so dangerous. Sir, how are you dealing with that, if I may? And this isn't a chastise on you, by the way.

Gregg Sadwick (00:47:28)
Yeah. No. Let's just... We need to be empathetic to what's going on. We look at the when we bought our first homes, what they were worth. And now homes, twenty, thirty years later, have tripled in value, but the income that the initial person's getting hasn't hasn't come close to that. So for us to... You know, a senior wants to kick back and say, yeah. You just gotta work hard, pull up your bootstraps, and get out there. I don't think that's a fair thing to say. I think we need to be a little more pathetic and come up with some creative solutions because things are different. Things have changed.

Gregg Sadwick (00:47:58)
That doesn't mean we wanna hand over more to the government because that's not the solution. But somehow, we've gotta help our youth get a better start to their future, which we had.

Peter Vazquez (00:48:08)
I agree with that a 100%. And the thing is this, though, and I say this all the time. Again, something else that gets me in trouble with partisan politics. See? We as conservatives in this nation, people that believe in God, country, and family, regardless of Democrat, regardless of Republican, what we are where we are as a society because we've all allowed it to happen.

Peter Vazquez (00:48:31)
Exactly. And if and if we've got a set in our society that is hungry... Well, guess what? What? We can't sit here and argue and say it's the Democrats' fault or it's the Republicans' fault. Do something about it. Permit. Absolutely. You know, one

Gregg Sadwick (00:48:46)
of the things I had talked about in the campaign trail, this goes against my core belief, is subsidizing daycare. That goes completely against my core belief. When you look at where America is right now, we may have to do that to help our younger generation be able to get in the workforce and start doing things to earn their way in life. So it's just not about our poor police. It's also about where we are. I kinda reference that. It's where we are as America. The combination of all our decisions, some of our decisions the last forty, fifty years have put us here. So we just can't, neglect that history in developing our policies.

Peter Vazquez (00:49:23)
You know, Gregg, we're running out of time. I'll tell you, I gotta have you on more often because your insight is just so... I mean, it's priceless, sir. I can't I can't thank you enough for sharing your insight with us. You know, I could say, hey.

Veterans, Military Service and Accountability

Peter Vazquez (00:49:36)
Sponsored the show. But then I'd lose out on all this insight because then you're paying for it, and then you're like, well, I don't I don't need to go on. I want your words. And ladies and gentlemen, this is the deal. Sponsored The Next Steps Show. Absolutely. But, give me a call, especially if you consider yourself a leader. I'm gonna play, I'm gonna deviate from what I'm doing because we're running out of time. I'm gonna go ahead and play cut three, Bob.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:49:57)
Right now tell you something. When you vote to send people to war, you're not voting to send an avatar to war. You're voting for people like me to go to war. Teenagers, mothers, fathers, those people are dying in Iran and for what? There are no clear objectives. As far as it goes, yeah, I don't agree with how we pulled out of Afghanistan. I spent five years of my early twenties in Afghanistan. It hurt my soul. I cried a little bit. When that happened, it was unconscionable. Of course, we could have had a better plan.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:50:37)
I'm sorry, but I am absolutely against the war in Iran. There is no taking me off of that. Donald Trump claimed that those nuclear bombs were obliterated six months before we hit them again. Claudia Tenney over here used a picture of the Ayatollah of Iran to light a cigar and posted that on social media. I don't like the Ayatollah either, but I also know that I'm not willing to sacrifice another generation of Americans to cancer, to the issues getting bombed, having being maimed and cruelly treated when they get

Bob Savage (00:51:11)
home. Yeah.

Recorded broadcast audio (00:51:12)
She claims that she supports veterans, but this lady voted against the PACT Act that literally saves veterans' lives when they're... When they get toxic exposure and get cancer from it. It allows the VA to pay for that.

Peter Vazquez (00:51:26)
You know what I mean?

Bob Savage (00:51:27)
By the way, that was Alyssa Ellman, democrat, candidate.

Peter Vazquez (00:51:31)
I think her very screeching democrat sounding voice, made that clear to our listeners though, Bob. I mean, come on. That was like chalkboard or nails in a chalkboard or whatever the saying is. Gregg Sadwick, ladies and gentlemen, a former US Navy veteran officer, you led troops, sir.

Gregg Sadwick (00:51:51)
Sailors. Yes.

Peter Vazquez (00:51:52)
Regardless, they went there. They... Their mission was god, country, and family. I'm an army guy. Come on. How many army are you? Okay. You led sailors. Listen. I'm sorry. Just some of the jokes on sailors, you know, so I avoid it.

Bob Savage (00:52:04)
And I'm just Yeah. Let's just make sure. Let's do

Gregg Sadwick (00:52:07)
that. Yeah.

Peter Vazquez (00:52:08)
But, seriously, you led soldiers or, sailors.

Closing: Public Service and Personal Responsibility

Peter Vazquez (00:52:12)
You led people. You guided them in the protection of this nation. This is a liberal who's trying to use liberal, a rationale to justify, right, well, her support of veterans for her. And I don't think I agree, and I'd like your opinion. Claudia Tenney did not support the pact. She explained why, which was... Well, I mean, it was purely financial. It was a budgetary thing. And she explained how when you make the... When you make something in congress permanent like the liberals talking about, well, it becomes a tool that the Liberals can use for other things like Kathy Hochul has shown shifting that money to, you know, to illegal aliens.

Peter Vazquez (00:52:52)
And Claudia Tenney was saying, well, wait a minute. If we keep it discussionary, I say where it goes.

Gregg Sadwick (00:52:58)
He's a Tom and Adam. At the end of the day, we've all been canceled by our elected officials, whether Republican or Democrat, and that's why we are in Iran. They all wanted it. Trump had the guts to do it, whether right or wrong, but they all put us here.

Peter Vazquez (00:53:11)
Anybody that says death to America, I think, should go away anyways. The honorable Gregg Sadwick, president of Solid Surface and president of Flower City Collision, he's a US Navy veteran officer, former congressional candidate for the 25th District, and a soon to be guest again on The Next Steps Show.

Peter Vazquez (00:53:30)
Thank you, Gregg. Thank you, Peter. It's great.

Gregg Sadwick (00:53:31)
It's been a great day.

Peter Vazquez (00:53:32)
Ladies and gentlemen like Gregg, be a leader, be a leader, be a leader. God bless this United States of America, don't forget to be, right, a voice for liberty yourself.