China Cultural Warfare is the warning running through this conversation: a nation can lose itself long before it loses a battle. It can surrender its industries before it hears the first shot. It can trade away its confidence before an enemy ever crosses a border. It can forget its history, mock its faith, divide its families, and call all of it progress, because mankind has developed a remarkable talent for decorating decline and then acting surprised when the roof caves in.
Nan Su of The Epoch Times brings the warning from lived experience, not academic distance. Born in China and arriving in America in 1989, just months before Tiananmen Square became a permanent symbol of communist brutality, he understands that tyranny does not fear armies alone. Tyranny fears memory. It fears people who remember who they were before the state told them who they were allowed to be. It fears faith because faith places authority above government. It fears truth because truth cannot be managed, edited, or imprisoned forever.
His message draws a sharp and necessary line between China as an ancient civilization and the Chinese Communist Party as a modern regime of control. Traditional Chinese culture carried deep roots of discipline, reverence, family, spiritual order, philosophy, and beauty. Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism, moral duty, ceremony, and respect for generations formed a civilizational inheritance far older and richer than communist ideology. But Nan Su makes clear that the CCP has worked since 1949 to sever China from those roots and replace them with state power, propaganda, surveillance, and obedience.
China Cultural Warfare: Some conversations strike like a warning bell.
Nan Su of The Epoch Times speaks from the memory of a man who came from China in 1989, months before Tiananmen Square showed what communist power does as truth stands in its way. He separates ancient China from the CCP, honoring a civilization of faith and family while exposing a regime built on control and unrestricted warfare.
The warning reaches from Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, and the South China Sea to Latin America and America’s institutions. The battlefield is not only overseas. It moves through economics, technology, media, education, culture, and the corrosion of confidence. Mark Turner’s question sharpens the moment. Shen Yun reminds us of the China communism tried to erase.
Then the lens turns home. Bad Bunny, the Super Bowl debate, “ICE out,” Puerto Rican identity, Hispanic business ownership, and border enforcement all point to one question: can heritage be honored without surrendering citizenship?
Peter speaks as Puerto Rican and American, carrying his father’s lesson: the American flag flies first. Gary’s call brings the warning back to the streets, where media confusion and division test God, country, and family.
This is the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis: truth traded for applause, culture rented to politics, and citizens pushed into tribes.
America is still worth defending because, under God, with memory, courage, and discipline, she can still be restored.
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Show Introduction
Intro:
Mira la izquierda, mira la derecha, ¿qué ves? ¿Dónde estás? In a world that seems to change daily, what will you do next?
Welcome to The Next Steps Show with Peter Vazquez, a starting point for discussion y un poco de dirección.
Segment One: Interview with Nan Su
Peter Vazquez:
We are going to spend the next couple of segments talking with a man who was born in China, immigrated to the United States around 1989, and now lives in California.
He has served as a China expert and commentator on television and radio for more than 20 years. He has delivered more than 300 presentations on human rights.
Why does that matter?
Right now, as the President of the United States has conversations with the president of China and leaders of other nations that are not always kind to our way of life, we need to understand what is happening inside those countries and what their actions mean for us.
China’s youth unemployment reached 17.7 percent in September 2025 because of an oversupply of college graduates and weak job creation. Foreign direct investment fell 9.5 percent in 2025, down to about $107 billion.
At the same time, China’s trade with Latin America hit a record $518 billion in 2024 and could exceed $700 billion by 2035.
So let us have that conversation with a man who knows these issues well. He is associated with and writes for a newspaper in this nation, media that tells the story with facts and truth, The Epoch Times.
It is my honor to welcome senior investigative reporter for The Epoch Times, Nan Su.
Sir, thank you for joining me today and taking the time to share with me and our listeners.
Nan Su:
Good morning, Peter. Thank you for having me.
Peter Vazquez:
The pleasure is ours.
As we get started, I talked a little bit about where you came from, when you came to America, and what you do. But tell us more. What made you decide to come to America?
Nan Su:
I came here in January of 1989, a little more than five months before the Tiananmen Square massacre. I am not sure if Americans remember that.
I came here chasing a girl I was in love with. That was the story.
Peter Vazquez:
Women, I will tell you. They say behind every powerful, intelligent man is a more powerful, intelligent woman making that man powerful and intelligent. That just goes to show you they even have the power to lure us to other countries.
God is good.
Tell me, you became involved with The Epoch Times at one point. Why that periodical? Why that newspaper?
Nan Su:
I started getting involved with The Epoch Times back in 2003. I spent about 15 years doing part-time volunteer work for The Epoch Times until 2018. Then I joined them in 2018 as a full-time journalist.
Peter Vazquez:
The information you cover feels real-time. When I read it, I feel like I am living that experience as well. Thank you again for the work you do.
Your investigations emphasize Chinese Communist Party global expansion, the authoritarian playbook, and information control. Your commentary often ties into crisis points, from the pandemic to Ukraine to Taiwan’s future.
I have also had people on this show connected to Falun Gong. There is a strong, great history to China. Why is it that today we are seeing China in a light that seems so anti-human?
Nan Su:
It is because today’s China is not built on traditional Chinese culture.
People in America and the Western world often think of China through Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism. Those are the three major elements of traditional Chinese culture.
But that is not what China is about today.
China has completely lost its traditional culture since 1949. The traditional culture was wiped out by the Chinese Communist regime. Today’s China is dominated by communist culture.
That is why it does not get along with anybody. It does not get along with its neighbors except Russia, because they support each other. Russia is expanding toward the West, and China is expanding to the East and South.
China has problems with all of its neighbors, and of course it has many problems with the United States and the Western world.
Peter Vazquez:
Let us talk about Donald Trump.
When he returned to the White House, he reshaped U.S.-China diplomacy after what many considered a chill. He and Xi Jinping met in person in October at the APEC summit in Busan, and Donald Trump rated the meeting as a 12 out of 10.
What is your opinion on that? How can we have a meeting between leaders of rival countries and one of those leaders calls it a 12 out of 10?
Nan Su:
First, let me say this about U.S.-China relations. From now until 2030, we are living in the most dangerous time window. A war in the Western Pacific could break out at any time.
After 2030, the possibility may start declining, especially if our government continues moving China policy in the correct direction. Maybe after 2035, the possibility of war with China will be much lower.
Trump has been correct on China policy, and Biden moved in the same general direction.
In 2016, when Donald Trump won the election, less than 30 days after the election, he made a phone call to Taiwan’s president. No other U.S. president had done that. After the phone call, he issued a statement calling Taiwan’s leader “President.”
Usually, because of U.S.-Taiwan-China relations, the U.S. government refers to Taiwan’s president as “leader.” But he was very straightforward in calling her “President.”
That was the starting point of a change in the entire U.S. government’s China policy, which had been moving in the wrong direction since the early 1970s, beginning with the Nixon administration.
In January 2018, Trump started the trade war with China. At the time, he was criticized from every side. But since then, the U.S. government and the Western world have started changing course on China policy.
If that change had not started then, and if we were only starting now, it would be too late.
Peter Vazquez:
We have heard about China’s economy not being too strong. I began the show by reading some numbers, especially youth unemployment.
Some people in the United States have said this is a result of Trump’s actions or tariffs. But we have had people from China on this show who have explained firsthand abductions, abuse, murders, and persecution.
I would say those things impact an economy far more than tariffs do.
Nan Su:
First, we need to go back.
In 2000, President Clinton made a speech at Johns Hopkins University urging Congress to grant China permanent normal trade relations, also called most-favored-nation trade status. That was a prerequisite for allowing China to join the World Trade Organization.
Since China joined the WTO in 2001, its economy grew five times in the first 10 years by 2011, and then doubled again from 2011 to 2021.
In the first 20 years after China joined the WTO, China’s economy grew tenfold.
As a result, American jobs and industries moved to China one after another.
In the era of the global economy, we deindustrialized America and industrialized communist China. That made China the biggest threat in human history to global peace and humanity.
If you look back through human history, you cannot find another regime that poses more danger to global peace and humanity than communist China today.
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Segment Two: China’s Military Expansion and Unrestricted Warfare
Peter Vazquez:
Peter Vazquez, The Next Steps Show on The Voice of Liberty.
Aja, sí. Un poquito de pollo frito y una cerveza on a Friday night is exactly what I am looking forward to.
Mira, 7:30 tonight, ladies and gentlemen. That is my time. You pick a time. Whether you are here, overseas in the military, or living somewhere else, take a second and say, “I love you, Mom,” “I love you, Dad,” “I love you, wife,” or “I love you, children.”
It is so important.
For those on social media, Mark Turner, thank you very much for participating. Fred, as always, muchas gracias.
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Now, let us continue where we left off.
Nan Su:
After we helped China grow its economy, people did not pay enough attention to China’s military spending.
Since 2008, after the world saw the spectacular opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics, the other side of the story is that every year China’s military budget increased by more than 7 percent.
Now China has become the biggest threat to all its neighboring countries.
China currently has the largest navy in the world. The U.S. Navy has about 292 warships. China already has close to 400 warships, and it is continuing to build up its naval force quickly.
China is the largest shipbuilding nation in the world. In 2023 and 2024, more than 50 percent of all new ships in the world were built in China.
The regime is quickly expanding its military. It threatens Japan, Taiwan, and the Philippines. It built man-made islands in the South China Sea from 2014 to 2017. After building them, China militarized them. Now it threatens all the nations around the South China Sea.
Peter Vazquez:
Do you think there is intent there?
We see what Russia did in Ukraine. Do you think China is signaling something similar?
Nan Su:
Latin America used to be America’s backyard. In order to fight and win the battle to defend peace in the Western Pacific, the Trump administration had a strategy of stabilizing America’s backyard, which is the Western Hemisphere and the American continent.
That is how some of these things came about.
China has deeply infiltrated the entire American continent over the past 20 to 25 years. That includes the United States. There has been a tremendous amount of CCP infiltration in the U.S. over the past 25 years.
New York State government had an infiltrator under Kathy Hochul’s administration, if you recall.
That is not a surprise because of the U.S. government’s China policy over the past 25 years.
In the Western Hemisphere, you see Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, and other countries deeply influenced and infiltrated by the Chinese government.
Changing what is happening in Venezuela is a first step. I believe tremendous work will also be put into Brazil. Brazil is the biggest nation in South America.
Changing the relationship among the U.S. government, the Brazilian government, and China is the next step. If that is not done, our backyard will not be stabilized while we are fighting to defend peace in the Western Pacific.
Peter Vazquez:
Ladies and gentlemen, that is Nan Su, senior investigative reporter for The Epoch Times.
I want to share a question from one of our listeners on the West Coast, Mark Turner.
He asks: does the guest concur that the CCP employs the doctrine of unrestricted warfare against the United States and the West? He says this includes biological, drugs, media, culture, cyber, race, and so forth.
Nan Su:
Yes, absolutely.
Most Americans have not realized what the Chinese Communist Party has been doing here. We have been enjoying cheap products from China, and many people thought that was good.
But the Chinese military has developed a doctrine called unrestricted warfare. It can take many different forms.
It could be economic warfare, taking American jobs and industries.
It could be information warfare.
It could be technological warfare, stealing American technology.
It could be cyber warfare, hacking the U.S. government and U.S. infrastructure.
It could be educational and cultural warfare, through things like Confucius Institutes and other channels.
Peter Vazquez:
And even internal cultural destruction, like what they try to do with Shen Yun dancers and orchestra, correct? They keep coming after them worldwide.
Nan Su:
Shen Yun is the show that tries to expose what is truly happening in China, including human rights violations against religious groups.
It also shows the world what Chinese culture was prior to communism and what China could be without communism.
Shen Yun is doing a tremendous job.
Peter Vazquez:
They are doing a great job.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is Nan Su, senior investigative reporter for The Epoch Times.
Do not forget to visit TheEpochTimes.com.
Nan, I want to thank you so much for your time today. May God bless you and the work that you and The Epoch Times continue to do.
Nan Su:
Thank you so much for having me.
Peter Vazquez:
Peace.
Transition
Station Voice:
Peter Vazquez and The Next Steps Show on The Voice of Liberty.
Segment Three: Culture, Bad Bunny, Puerto Rican Identity, and the Super Bowl
Peter Vazquez:
Mira, ladies and gentlemen, this Sunday, let us get a preview.
There seems to be a rift regarding one of the most epic events of the year, something I have always considered media, God, country, and culture. It defines American culture, grit, and iron sharpening iron.
Culture is not a voting booth, unlike what progressives and some confused Republicans seem to think.
Culture is language, memory, food, faith, y familia.
Even though politics and politicians try to attach themselves to it, American culture also encompasses Puerto Rican culture. Puerto Rico has never belonged to just one politician or party.
How about we look at Scripture for guidance?
Galatians 6 teaches that we reap what we sow. That is consequences and moral realism.
Proverbs 14:34 says righteousness exalts a nation.
God, country, and family. It is in that order for a reason.
Micah 6:8 talks about justice, mercy, and humility.
Read it, politicians. Read it, NFL. Read it, business owners.
This whole push for common prosperity that the left likes to push in this nation, and that Chinese leadership pushes over there, is bamboozlement in disguise.
I have stayed away from the Super Bowl moment, the culture and identity issue, and the Bad Bunny situation. I am not a fan of his music. I do not know the man. I simply do not like the genre.
I feel the same way about much of rap, heavy metal, hard rock, and techno.
But here is my issue.
When someone, whether it is Bad Bunny or not, says they are excited to use the stage to bring their culture, connect to their roots, and emphasize culture, I understand that. Mi cultura también. That kind of statement can make the show special in theory.
Bad Bunny’s all-Spanish album recently won Album of the Year. Audiences have embraced non-English narratives, and I hope they do, because I do the bilingual thing on this show too.
But this is the issue: his performance is not just entertainment anymore. It is not just education. It is not merely dialogue.
We just finished a half-hour conversation with a man who grew up in a country that uses propaganda. When Mark Turner asked about the CCP’s doctrine of unrestricted warfare, one of the things listed was cultural attack, and our guest discussed that.
The investigative reporter explained how that works.
I do not know if you have listened to some of this music. It is not just Bad Bunny. You cannot always find a decent rap song today. I grew up with people like LL Cool J and Doug E. Fresh. That was the music I heard. I was not into Kid Rock or Pink Floyd until later.
I did not replace what I liked. I added to what I enjoyed. People think my playlists are bizarre.
But this is the Vanboolzalness Crisis.
Puerto Ricans can love Puerto Rican culture. Yes, we can. But do we have to rent out our identity to a mainstream partisan script?
Bad Bunny, I am sorry, Papa, but the whole “ICE out” concept is not only inappropriate, it is not even your lane to comment on as though you have some special authority.
What are your qualifications on that?
You are a legal U.S. citizen. So what?
We hear that rhetoric locally in Rochester, New York, and then we wonder why we have chaos.
The Center for Puerto Rican Studies at Hunter College, a CUNY college, discussed the 2024 election cycle and cited the El Nuevo Día poll. El Nuevo Día translates as “The New Day.”
Trump support among Puerto Ricans on the island was at 30 percent.
That is why understanding culture and the Vanboolzalness Crisis is important.
Caller: Gary
Peter Vazquez:
Gary, thank you for calling The Next Steps Show.
Gary:
Hello, Peter. How are you doing?
Peter Vazquez:
I am doing all right. I am getting ready for the next snowstorm, moving the piles back a little.
Gary:
The gentleman you had on earlier was talking about China and how they completely bamboozled people over many years. We are watching the exact same thing here. They adopted that playbook.
It is a pity that our corporate media has adopted the wrong side in this and will do anything to protect this. I do not even know what to call it anymore. It is an evil cabal of people who value power and control more than they value this country, its founding, and its ideals.
They are destroying us as a result.
Peter Vazquez:
That is what gets me, Gary.
You recently sent me a video, and in the text you said, “Man, they would go to any length to separate us.”
Is that not one of the foundational things China uses? They suppress information. They suppress things like God, country, family, and free speech.
Gary:
Yes. If you suppress true information, that is how you get people who are basically paid revolutionaries and brainwashed citizens to attack federal officers who are removing violent convicted criminals brought in under the last administration.
When you can convince otherwise rational people to believe a lie and act on it based on what they heard from corrupt news media, we have a problem.
It may have to be solved by going after licenses if they do not stop lying.
Locally, I have told them about all this voter stuff. Now it is coming out. Every day there is more evidence from different states.
Peter Vazquez:
Is lying in the eye of the beholder, though?
Gary:
No. There is absolute truth, and then there are both sides of that.
Peter Vazquez:
Gary, you took me in a whole other direction. I might as well hang up my paperwork and forget my notes.
You bring up a valid point, and this is why I have had people from MRC News on here to talk about the Vanboolzalness Crisis.
When we see people on television that we respect, and they say things that control the narrative, like the mayor of Rochester, the White House, or local officials, it matters.
I joke on my show about hiding when I do remote shows because they are hunting us. That controls the narrative, Gary.
Gary:
You are just kidding. Seriously.
Peter Vazquez:
Gary, I appreciate your call every single time. I am going to hang up on you now.
Gary:
It is your show.
Peter Vazquez:
I love you, Papa. I will talk to you soon.
Ladies and gentlemen, the U.S. Census Bureau reported 406,486 Hispanic-owned employer firms in 2021. Later, that grew to 465,202 Hispanic-owned employer firms.
Why?
Because somos americanos.
We will be right back. Give me a call at 585-346-3000.
No te vayas. Soy yo, Peter Vazquez.
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Segment Four: The Flag Flies First
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Peter Vazquez:
The lines are open.
I want to clarify something, because some of you are probably thinking, “Here goes Latino Peter Vazquez, Puerto Rican, promoting you to watch Bad Bunny during the halftime show.”
I am not.
I am not for a couple of reasons.
In this country, as my father taught me, we fly the American flag. We are proud of our heritages. Yo soy Boricua. I am Puerto Rican through and through.
But Americano primero.
The American flag flies first. My father taught me that, and he grew up in the mountains of Puerto Rico, over at Monte Olimpo.
I suggest this: pay attention.
I choose not to watch the NFL halftime show, but I have not liked the halftime show for a while. It has moved away from God, country, family, grit, American grit, and iron sharpening iron, and toward very strange halftime shows.
Some commercials are funny. Turning Point USA has an alternative option.
My concern with that option is this: are we now creating an atmosphere where it becomes about “us” and “them”?
Kid Rock is white. Bad Bunny is Puerto Rican. You know what progressives are doing with that. They are highlighting it.
Welcome back to The Next Steps Show, ladies and gentlemen.
They absolutely are.
I happen to like Kid Rock. I am fine with that. But when a guy like Bad Bunny says “ICE out,” I ask again: what are your qualifications?
Why do we have people leading Hispanic organizations saying we are being hunted?
Caramba. Stop.
Senator John Kennedy said these activists see the chaos in Minneapolis as an opportunity to use George Floyd’s playbook to convince Congress to defund ICE and Border Patrol.
Once again, skin color is being used.
Is that not what they are trying to do with the NFL halftime show?
Mira, yo soy Boricua.
Audio Clip:
A historical audio clip plays about courage, liberty, peace, sacrifice, and refusing to submit to tyranny.
Peter Vazquez:
That is where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
Under Biden and under Hochul, who aligns closely with progressive socialists, this is what gets me with Bad Bunny. That is where the association is.
Culturally, every Puerto Rican I knew growing up in Rochester, including my father, often voted Democrat because that was the mantra.
But when you look at someone like Bad Bunny and say he wants to bring his culture and connect to his roots, then why is he saying “ICE out”?
His album title translates to something like “I should have taken more pictures.” I looked at the video. I looked at a clip that looked like a short movie. It talks nothing about ICE.
Listen, Vanboolzalness Crisis: there is money to be made in this nation when you agree with progressives and the left.
Conservatives and Republicans in New York know that too.
Survival of the fittest, is that not what it is called?
The lines are open: 585-346-3000.
Dialogue requires two people. Call, please. If not, I love to talk, so eso no me importa mucho.
Do not forget I am on social media, and you can text me. My phone number is on the social media post.
But I encourage the call because we should be talking about Hispanic-owned employers. They numbered about 406,000, which is about 7.1 percent of all U.S. employer firms.
Those are numbers we should be discussing, not just whether Bad Bunny is going to do the halftime show.
Why is that dominating?
Why did I feel compelled, as I prepped for this show, because I am Puerto Rican and I happen to like Kid Rock, to have this discussion?
Because it is important.
Dad, Mom, we have to bridge this. We have to bridge this gap, this fracture. It is a progressive-led fracture.
Audio Clip:
A historical audio clip plays about self-government, the burden of citizenship, “We the People,” and the ordinary Americans who work, teach, build, protect, and serve the nation.
Peter Vazquez:
We the people includes all of us.
Listen, Bad Bunny. Listen, local leaders saying ignorant things like, “We are being hunted.”
Caramba.
Colossians 3:17 says to do everything in the name of the Lord. That anchors our culture, work, and public life under one authority: God.
One nation under God.
Did we forget that?
For leaders claiming nonsense like “ICE out,” and saying they are doing a show not because they want publicity, it certainly looks like publicity.
When one broadcast reaches 127.2 million viewers, that is not just a show anymore. That is a civic microphone.
This Sunday, when the world sees this live show, forget the fact that Bad Bunny is Puerto Rican or anything else. He is American. That is a fact.
That is what we should be focusing on.
It is the bamboozlement.
If someone like Bad Bunny can be convinced, as a Puerto Rican, to tell the rest of America that being illegal is okay, then you need to pay attention. Especially as an American.
When 14.5 percent of business owners are Hispanic, that should matter to you.
Why?
Because it is all about God, country, and family. It is all about sacrifice. Iron sharpens iron.
Be a leader this weekend.
Be a leader. Be a leader. Be a leader.
God bless these United States of America.
Do not let a second go by where you are not a voice for libertad.
Outro:
Music plays and the show closes.