When the Machines Lie and the City Pays

Peter Vazquez:
I like that. That is clever. I think that would have a catastrophic effect on the soul of those black doodles in that country.

Bob Savage:
When pigs fly, Peter.

Peter Vazquez:
That is true. Yes, indeed.

We have breaking news as we start the hour. Did you know that the Long Island Railroad strike has idled 3,500 workers and a quarter of a million commuters have no way to get to work? Did you know that is Trump’s fault?

Bob Savage:
That is the word from Kathy Hochul, because she has all the answers, as we know.

Peter Vazquez:
She does. If you ask my dummy, she has all the answers and all the money. But who cares about working people? That goes back to the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis that we have been talking about on this show. Unless you are intentionally reading what she is doing, you do not hear that anywhere.

At least the president responded by saying he did not even know about it until Sunday morning. I tend to believe the president had not heard about the Long Island Railroad strike until then.

That takes us to a whole other topic. Who is saying what? What is saying who? Who do we believe?

I happen to trust the president, but the whole concept is trust but verify. Back on May 4, just a couple of weeks ago, I had a phenomenal individual on from MRC Free Speech America, the honorable Tom Olohan.

Bob Savage:
When you said outstanding individual, I immediately thought Tom Olohan.

Peter Vazquez:
That is why I said it. I think most of our listeners are like, “Yes, of course.” Google outstanding individual and you will see him. He pops right up.

Tom, are you still there with us, or did I bore you yet?

Tom Olohan:
Yes, you guys are making my day. I appreciate all the kind words.

Peter Vazquez:
Did we bore you yet?

Tom Olohan:
I was not expecting that initial response.

Peter Vazquez:
We are just messing with you. Dialogue requires a little bit of fun. We can call it banter or whatever, Tom. But the reality is this: when we forget that we have to take things in stride, we forget the overall picture and get lost in our emotions.

Tom Olohan:
Absolutely. It is definitely easy to do that, and we know a lot of the media does.

Big Tech News Apps and Narrative Control

Peter Vazquez:
They do.

Most of my listeners are familiar with MRC.org, with you, and with many of your colleagues. So, real quick: who decides what rises to the top of our news cycles, and who decides what gets buried?

Tom Olohan:
There are a lot of different avenues for this, but one huge one recently is the big four news apps, which let four major Big Tech players decide what is going to be at the top of the news feeds that most Americans use.

Two of the biggest are Google News and Apple News. If you have an Android phone, you likely have Google News, and Google will push the mainstream media to the top. If you have an iPhone, Apple News is very popular in the United States, and Apple News also leans left.

The other ones are Yahoo News and MSN, which is connected to Microsoft, another Big Tech company. You have those big four news apps putting their fingers on the scale and keeping the elitist media and leftist media alive.

DeepSeek, China, Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah

Peter Vazquez:
Most of those apps, or maybe all of them, are now wrapped around AI. On May 12 of this year, you wrote an article called “DeepSeek Defends Iranian Terrorist Regime Ahead of U.S.-China Visits.”

MRC describes DeepSeek as a Chinese communist government-tied AI chatbot. We cannot talk enough about AI because it is here and it is not going anywhere.

Why did you write that article, and why do you think DeepSeek is defending Iran?

Tom Olohan:
It is important to note that even though American Big Tech is extremely biased toward the left, it is definitely not the right choice to go abroad to China and depend on their technology, because they do not have America’s interests at heart.

DeepSeek is not a neutral chatbot. We have a lot of studies showing how closely it toes the line on Chinese Communist Party propaganda. I found this case particularly egregious because DeepSeek went out of its way to defend Iran, and Iran is an ally of China.

DeepSeek went as far as defending Hamas and Hezbollah, two heinous terrorist groups that have done horrible things to Israeli citizens, Syrian citizens, Lebanese citizens, and even committed terrorist attacks across Europe, mostly targeting Israelis and Jews.

DeepSeek actually went as far as kind of valorizing Hamas and Hezbollah by saying that they mostly target military forces. I could not believe that DeepSeek was so committed to defending China that it would defend an ally of an ally of China.

Peter Vazquez:
I decided to look at that for myself, sir, and I used some of the same terminology from your article. You were right. DeepSeek acknowledged that the United States designated Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1984. However, it presents that designation as an opinion of just the United States and Israel, which is completely false.

Tom Olohan:
Just observing Iran’s actions, it is extremely obvious what organizations Iran is supporting and funding, and what the state itself is responsible for. It was a truly awful answer.

If I can mention another case, DeepSeek actually sent me what appeared to be a Chinese Communist Party press release. The app usually responds in English to queries, but in my case, it responded in Mandarin. When I had a Mandarin speaker translate it for me, it actually used the pronoun “we.”

So it shifted into first-person plural to discuss the issue and denounced Trump’s raid that captured Maduro. In that case, it switched to directly speaking for the Communist Party.

Peter Vazquez:
That is the algorithmic version of moral confusion. The problem is that so many people are using AI today. I have been dabbling with it lately. It is interesting, and I believe it can be as good as any other tool for research and other things.

But the problem is that so many people, what Rush Limbaugh called low-information voters, would never know that what they are reading is wrong. They will base their entire life on those things, which is insanity to me.

Tom Olohan:
Yes, absolutely. It is very unfortunate. It is very important for as many people as possible to find good news sources they can trust. But as you said earlier, and as Reagan said, trust but verify.

Do your homework to be a good citizen and keep yourself informed. Do not outsource what you know to Big Tech, whether it is the big four news apps or artificial intelligence.

Wikipedia, SPLC, and Hidden Placement

Peter Vazquez:
On May 7, you wrote another article called “Wiki-Bias Exposed: Wikipedia Editors Scramble to Bury the SPLC Indictment.”

They pushed that entire issue all the way down to the 65th paragraph, which, honestly, who reads that much these days? Meanwhile, anti-conservative and really anti-American type news gets highlighted first.

Tom Olohan:
That is what they do. If there is bad news about someone on the right, it has to go near the top or even in the first blurb on the whole page.

But for the SPLC, the news gets pushed all the way down. If you look at the talk pages, you will see editors arguing about whether they should even include the news at all and fighting hard to stop people from putting the news in a more prominent place or including embarrassing details.

For example, editors were furiously trying to stop anyone from including the information that the SPLC actually funded an organizer of the infamous Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.

Peter Vazquez:
Tom, what is more dangerous: censorship, or selective placement that technically includes some of the facts but hides the meaning?

Tom Olohan:
That is a very good question. Obviously, the second is far more subtle and less easy to draw people’s attention to. But at the Media Research Center, both in MRC Free Speech America and with our friends over at NewsBusters, we are getting the news out there and reporting on when the media does this, when Wikipedia does this, and trying to keep everyone informed.

I would still say censorship because it is silencing people. Ultimately, when all the Big Tech companies or all the banks act in concert to silence and debank people, they can cut you off from society. It can be extremely brutal, as we saw in the years between Trump’s first election and almost until his most recent election.

Peter Vazquez:
Did you say debank people?

Tom Olohan:
Yes.

Peter Vazquez:
What does that mean?

Tom Olohan:
It is a type of financial censorship. It means cutting people off from access to banking services.

Peter Vazquez:
Is that not something? Ladies and gentlemen, you have to listen and see the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis at work. We talk about it right here on the Voice of Liberty with Peter Vazquez and The Next Steps Show. On the telephone, I have the honor of having Tom Olohan of MRC Free Speech America.

We will be right back, right here on the Voice of Liberty, WYSL and WLEA.

Return From Break

Peter Vazquez:
Peter Vazquez and The Next Steps Show on the Voice of Liberty. We are back in here, fresh new week, post-Lilac Festival. Enjoy the summertime we have.

Bob Savage:
You said fresh new week.

Peter Vazquez:
Fresh, yes. You know there was a rap song about fresh, just so you know.

Bob Savage:
I have noticed that, because as you know, I am really big on rap and hip-hop.

Peter Vazquez:
Me too, do you not think?

I have the honorable Tom Olohan of MRC Free Speech America. Tom, what is your website so people can find your work?

Tom Olohan:
You can find my work at MRCFreeSpeechAmerica.org, and you can also find great work from my colleagues at NewsBusters.org.

Peter Vazquez:
Great stuff. I visit your site often. The work you do ties directly into the phrase we have been using here, the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis. It has us tied up with issue after issue, whether it is Epstein, the world, or the way reality comes in and the media decides what they are allowing us to think.

Saturday Night Live, Comedy, and Messaging

Peter Vazquez:
Saturday Night Live’s Weekend Update political jokes target conservatives. Is that comedy or messaging?

Tom Olohan:
Definitely messaging. We see this again and again. It is truly incredible how many of the jokes relentlessly go after the right.

Even when the jokes appear to go after the left, they are frequently aimed at helping purge more moderate members of the Democrat Party or helping a far-left radical like Mamdani in his election against Cuomo.

A large percentage of jokes going after the left can target people like Cuomo to help someone even further left get into office.

So yes, definitely messaging. We see this on Saturday Night Live, with Stephen Colbert, with Jimmy Kimmel. It is relentless.

Bob Savage:
Another telltale sign is that the jokes are not funny. It is not humor. It is character assassination lapped up by people who clap like trained seals.

Peter Vazquez:
Some people call that truth jokes.

Bob Savage:
Truth jokes?

Peter Vazquez:
Tom, is there such a thing as truth jokes from your perspective?

Tom Olohan:
If that is what Saturday Night Live is doing, it is not very funny. I suppose there could be funny examples, but I have not come across them. I cannot remember the last time I watched that show.

Peter Vazquez:
Check this out, ladies and gentlemen. Season 50, 82 percent. By the way, Tom, this is all data I got from the work you guys are doing that people need to know about because SNL is a popular show and one that has influenced culture for a long time.

I remember John McCain on there practically begging for votes. He was saying, “I am old. I do not have a second chance. Vote for me.” Do you remember that?

Tom Olohan:
I went to a McCain-Palin rally when I was little, right after I moved to Virginia, but I do not believe I saw his Saturday Night Live appearance.

Peter Vazquez:
I cannot believe you are talking about McCain-Palin when you were little. I hosted a Palin book signing at the old Borders Books.

Tom Olohan:
That was a long time ago. I was not allowed to vote, but I was doing voter advocacy and arguing with Ron Paul fans back then.

Peter Vazquez:
Ladies and gentlemen, is that not refreshing? Tom, the next time I have you on, we will have to talk about those discussions you had regarding Ron Paul.

Season 51, 91 percent of Weekend Update political jokes targeted conservatives. There seems to be a trend, and not just at SNL. We see it across much of the media.

The United Kingdom had a protest recently with thousands of people, and their prime minister came on the news and basically called them criminals, saying they had no valid claim. That is part of the whole Vanbōōlzalness Crisis.

Bob Savage:
When you hear from the prime minister of Great Britain, it feels great to be an American.

Tom Olohan:
Yes, it feels great to have Trump as president in America.

To know that we are in a country where, no matter how bad censorship has gotten, police do not necessarily show up at your door to ask about something you tweeted. That is unfortunately common over there.

When they hold a big rally on immigration, the government clamps down, bans people from visiting the country, and generally tramples free speech.

Peter Vazquez:
The United Kingdom, ladies and gentlemen, a Western country, banned outside journalists from entering their country to cover that. Is that not something?

Rededicate 250, Faith, and Media Framing

Peter Vazquez:
We are down to the last few minutes, and I want to make sure we address this because I have no doubt you guys will address it in the near future.

This Sunday, there was a rededication event called Rededicate 250 for the 250th anniversary of this nation. It seems that prayer has become suspicious and rage has become democracy.

Tom, I did not see much coverage on the news media. Maybe some local or lesser-known ones mentioned it, but the coverage that was there carried a warning label. Does MRC have a stance on that yet?

Tom Olohan:
I think that is very similar to how the media has treated large Christian events for a long time. They have always downplayed, for example, the March for Life, the largest civil rights protest.

They do that year after year, ignoring it and belittling it. So I am not surprised that a ton of Christians coming together and speaking about their faith would fly under the radar for the media and be belittled and criticized by them.

Peter Vazquez:
Pew Research Center seems to be involved in almost all the statistics I found, especially those favoring the left. But check this out. They found that about 29 percent of U.S. adults are religiously unaffiliated, including 5 percent atheist, 6 percent agnostic, and 19 percent nothing in particular.

However, they also found that about 62 percent of U.S. adults identify as Christian. To me, that number should be acknowledged.

Tom Olohan:
Absolutely. We should definitely have media outlets that are aware that we are a Christian nation and are able to speak to people of faith, understand people of faith, and write about important events affecting them without immediately jumping to attacks like framing everyone motivated by their faith as a Christian nationalist.

Bringing the First Half Together

Peter Vazquez:
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the honorable Tom Olohan of MRC Free Speech America.

Tom, as we move to the last few minutes, I want to bring it all together. Everything we have discussed today, everything we discussed on May 4, the times I have had you on before, and the times I have had some of your colleagues on, there seems to be a trend.

AI reframes the enemy. Wikipedia buries a very serious scandal. Comedy conditions people through messaging at the local level. Media coverage labels public faith.

Sir, what words can you share with our listeners today that would help them better discern the news, the narrative being pushed, and the truth and facts?

Tom Olohan:
We are blessed, at least for the moment, to have a large number of good sources competing with the elitist media.

I am very grateful that you exist, that talk radio exists, and that talk radio came out alongside Fox News to break the leftist information monopoly. That has also allowed organizations like The Daily Wire to come out and has allowed aggregators like the Bongino Report and many conservative news organizations to exist.

Seek out these sources of information and be a good citizen so that you do not have to depend on the easiest sources to reach, which unfortunately have leftist influence: your AI, your news apps, your Wikipedia.

Work a little harder to get to the truth. Pray about it and stay well informed.

Peter Vazquez:
Tom, real quick, give us a 30-second pitch on what MRC is, what you guys do, and what it is all about.

Tom Olohan:
Absolutely. We are the Media Research Center. We report on liberal news bias. We look into censorship and keep the elitist media honest, whether that is broadcast networks, Big Tech, which has gotten into media with the big four news apps, or formerly government-funded organizations like NPR and PBS.

Bob Savage:
It looks like, temporarily at least, NPR has its money back. We will see if that sticks or not. Keeping the media honest and constantly pursuing all that will be a little bit like trying to make sure your dog practices piano every day.

I wish you well in your mission and quest.

Tom Olohan:
Absolutely. Thank you.

Peter Vazquez:
Ladies and gentlemen, the Vanbōōlzalness Crisis is not always censorship. It is not always an urge. Sometimes it is perception. Sometimes it is selective placement.

The honorable Tom Olohan, MRC Free Speech America, is working to help us find where they are lying to us. Tom, thank you. May God bless you and the work your organization continues to do.

Tom Olohan:
Thank you. God bless you too.

Peter Vazquez:
Right here on The Next Steps Show, ladies and gentlemen, with Peter Vazquez and the Voice of Liberty, WYSL and WLEA.

Southern Tier News Update

News Anchor:
Southern Tier update. A stabbing in Hornell occurred Saturday night just before 1 a.m., according to Hornell Police Chief Ted Murray. The victim was taken to St. James Hospital.

The suspect accused of allegedly stabbing the victim is 27-year-old Jeremaine Hawkins of Hornell. Hawkins was charged with assault in the first degree, as well as criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree. Hawkins is in Steuben County Jail.

In other news, four Hornell residents were pulled over in the town of Avon late last week. Livingston County Sheriff Tom Dougherty reports that 57-year-old Joaquin Irizarry, 30-year-old Angelica Clark, 34-year-old Morgan Ayers, and 34-year-old David O’Brien were pulled over in a vehicle. Police say alleged crack cocaine was found inside.

I am Canelia for the Voice of Liberty.

Return From Break: Local Accountability and Rochester

Peter Vazquez:
Peter Vazquez and The Next Steps Show on the Voice of Liberty.

Telling me what you feel and sharing with others not only teaches, it also makes you feel a little good, according to the Democrats. You know, that whole touchy-feely stuff.

Bob, I have a question for you. Are we watching government accountability, or government theater with folding chairs being handed out?

Bob Savage:
It sure is not accountability, at least not in any measurable way.

Peter Vazquez:
It is not. Rochester is not some distant spectator in America’s crisis of trust. Rochester is one of those places where the crisis lands, takes off its coat, and starts rearranging the furniture.

If you do not believe me, we can look at something like the Police Accountability Board. Or look at Rochester’s downtown federal building with the federal immigration flash point going on there. You have Joe Morelle saying he fought hard for this not to be here.

Truth in public life is not measured by how many meetings government holds. It is measured by whether those meetings produce courage, clarity, and consequence. Bob, would you agree with that?

Bob Savage:
I did not quite hear what was just said in my ear, but we have a caller on the line.

Caller: Tracy DeFlorio

Bob Savage:
Go ahead, caller. Is this Gracie?

Tracy DeFlorio:
Tracy.

Peter Vazquez:
Tracy. Hi, Tracy.

Tracy DeFlorio:
This is Tracy DeFlorio, candidate for the 138th Assembly District.

Peter Vazquez:
Tracy. That Tracy. Good thing we figured this out.

Tell the listeners again who you are running for and what you are running for.

Tracy DeFlorio:
I am running for the 138th Assembly District, which represents all of the towns of Riga, Chili, Henrietta, and the eastward portion of the city up to Clifford Avenue.

Bob Savage:
This is a primary race you are in now?

Tracy DeFlorio:
No. This will be the general election in November.

Bob Savage:
Just the general. Tell us all about it. What do you think your constituents need?

Tracy DeFlorio:
I think my constituents deserve a leader who will represent their best interests and focus on solving the problems of our community. That includes safety, economics, business development, and the rising cost of utilities.

But I think the one big thing all of our state leaders could do for us today, and we held a press conference this morning, is to suspend the gas tax for the next 90 days to give local families and families across the state immediate relief at the pump.

Bob Savage:
You are talking about the state and federal taxes?

Tracy DeFlorio:
Virginia McIntyre, who I think is hoping to call in later, is running for Congress and is advocating at the federal level. The rest of us at the press conference today are advocating at the state level.

Bob Savage:
What is the state’s contribution to the gas tax?

Tracy DeFlorio:
It is a percentage. It is currently hovering around 24 to 24.5 cents on every gallon.

That would bring immediate relief to our local economy.

Peter Vazquez:
To me, this is a no-brainer issue. We were talking offline. The total savings for Americans could be around 40-something cents per gallon. That is not a huge break, but we will take whatever we can get at this point.

Tracy DeFlorio:
It all adds up. If all three levels, as well as the county, joined in, it would be approximately 50 cents per gallon.

In my car, I am spending about $80 to fill it up. I used to spend about $34. That would be a big help to me.

And think about not only the impact on your personal vehicle, but our food gets to grocery stores by truck. Your Amazon deliveries come by truck. We are putting gas into all of that. Every bit of it affects the overall cost to small businesses, and those prices get passed on to everything.

Whether or not the state legislature wants to admit it, gas is the driver right now of our economy.

Bob Savage:
Diesel for my pickup is six bucks a gallon, and that is what a lot of trucks burn. That is definitely a savings.

Peter Vazquez:
When we get Virginia on, I want to ask her about that because the federal tax is a federal issue. Gillibrand is out there saying it is Trump’s fault.

Tracy DeFlorio, running for State Assembly. What district and what is your website?

Tracy DeFlorio:
The district is the 138th Assembly District. The website is VoteDeFlorio.com.

Peter Vazquez:
Thank you very much. I will be reaching out to your campaign to get you on as a candidate to talk for the hour. Tracy, I appreciate your time today on this very important issue.

Tracy DeFlorio:
Thank you so much for everything you do.

Bob Savage:
Thanks, Tracy. We appreciate you being on.

Caller: Chris Brown

Bob Savage:
I believe it is Chris Brown on the line.

Peter Vazquez:
Chris Brown is running in the Wayne County and Webster area, which is Monroe County. Chris, thanks for calling.

Chris Brown:
Hi, it is Chris Brown here, running for State Senate in District 55. It actually does not include Wayne County. It is Pittsford, Penfield, Fairport, East and West Irondequoit, Webster, and the eastern part of the city. Mostly the east side of Monroe County.

Bob Savage:
The old Rich Funke district?

Chris Brown:
You got it. My opponent is Samra Brouk, so basically her district. I think it might have been redrawn since Funke was in this district, but do not quote me there.

Peter Vazquez:
The number was 55. I know that. And let me tell you something. It is not Samra Brouk’s district. It is your district, buddy.

Chris Brown:
I appreciate that. I would like folks to start thinking about it that way.

Samra has been in office for six years now, and I think she has had her chance to do what she wanted to do. I am for term limits. If I get in, I will be in there for a short period. I think six to 12 years is a good sweet spot.

But that is only if you are making a difference. In the opinion of the people, the people basically rule. If people think you are not doing a good job and they are suffering, I think it is time for you to hang up your hat and move along.

When I am campaigning, I am hearing a lot from folks on both sides of the fence who are not happy with the spending in District 55 and all through New York State.

Peter Vazquez:
Chris Brown, ladies and gentlemen. Let me ask you a quick question. You had the press conference this morning on suspending the gas tax. If the state can declare emergencies for everything else, why not declare economic relief at the pump?

Chris Brown:
Exactly. It sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Think about tourism in this state. We have 318 million people who come from all around to tour New York State because we have a beautiful state. That is why we live here. We have the Adirondack Park, the lakes, Lake Ontario, Lake George, the Finger Lakes. People love to camp, fish, hike, and go to the beaches.

All of that will be affected by these gas prices.

I keep saying the same phrase: it is a no-brainer. If we have been acquiring extra money in our coffers because of the recent crisis and the war causing gas prices to go up, then there is more money in the coffers. That should give us a little more room to provide relief.

The summer months are the most important for a lot of these tourist towns.

Tourism brings in around $94 billion from 318 million people. The economic impact is huge. This past weekend was the opening week for Cranberry Lake, and usually Bear Mountain is about 50 percent booked. There were only about 11 or 12 people there this past week, which is down a lot from the usual 50 percent capacity.

If that shows up in Lake Placid, Tupper, and our great city of Rochester, people are not going to the breweries, wineries, and local spots. This is huge.

Peter Vazquez:
Chris, I will tell you, all those towns you mentioned, if you go there now, they look different than they used to.

Before we let you go, let me ask you quickly about another topic: the Police Accountability Board. Are you familiar with it?

Chris Brown:
We are all at the same stance where we want more accountability for criminals. We are not for bail reform. We want to make sure people feel safe.

There are three issues that come up when I campaign. One is energy prices. Two is gas. Three is safety. People are very concerned that we are letting people go under bail reform earlier than they should, especially repeat offenders.

If they are let go on a lesser charge, they keep upping the ante. If you have kids, you know they test boundaries. How bad can I get before I end up behind bars for a good spell?

Peter Vazquez:
How much more control can the government give?

Chris Brown, ladies and gentlemen. Your website real quick?

Chris Brown:
ChrisBrownForNYSenate.com. Please go and check it out.

Peter Vazquez:
Thank you very much for your time, ladies and gentlemen. We will be right back right here on The Next Steps Show on the Voice of Liberty.

Return From Break: DEI and Gas Tax Relief

Bob Savage:
Breaking from the American Bar Association: effective immediately, they are eliminating all DEI at American law schools starting in 2027. That is good news.

Peter Vazquez:
That is very good news. And what is really crazy, Bob, is that as a Latino, and I am not throwing the race card out there, but as a Hispanic man, I am excited about that.

We have one more candidate calling in. They had a press conference this morning regarding the suspension of the gas tax. The honorable Virginia McIntyre, currently a Monroe County legislator running for Congress.

Virginia, thank you for calling.

Caller: Virginia McIntyre

Virginia McIntyre:
Thank you for having me on, Peter. How are you doing?

Peter Vazquez:
I am doing well. You had a press conference this morning. Tell us what it was about.

Virginia McIntyre:
It was about giving taxpayers some relief by suspending the gas tax at the federal level. Representative Luna proposed H.R. 8795, the American Families Gas Tax Relief Act, on May 13. It looks like it went into committee.

It is such a simple thing.

Peter Vazquez:
To me, it is a no-brainer. But is about 50 cents savings per gallon significant enough for our people?

Virginia McIntyre:
At the federal level, it would be about 18 cents. Right now, about 18.4 cents is taxed, and the bill proposes suspending that. The bill calls it a gas tax holiday, but it is for at least 120 days to see gas prices drop as soon as possible.

That is what we all want. Both sides of the aisle can agree that gas is too expensive right now.

Peter Vazquez:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand blamed high fuel prices on what she called President Trump’s unauthorized war in Iran. Local Republicans say cut taxes now. Gillibrand says end the war and blame Trump.

What does Virginia McIntyre, candidate for the 25th Congressional District, say?

Virginia McIntyre:
I say support H.R. 8795. I do not think it serves anyone to discuss and lay blame. That is what the other side does. They are constantly pointing fingers.

Gas prices are too high in New York State. We have New York State taxes. We have Governor Kathy Hochul.

One of the things I am calling for is for both sides to stop laying blame and start working together for the American people. Getting up and making divisive statements about who is to blame is not helping us right now. We need those gas prices to come down.

This is how we get into political dysfunction. Politicians make big sweeping statements and blame people. We can talk about New York’s gas taxes. We can talk about New York losing more people than almost any other state. It may be number one or number two in population loss.

It is not just about federal taxes. It is about state taxes as well. Both sides need to work together to get this economy in shape for the American people. That is a priority.

Bob Savage:
It is tiresome. The Long Island Railroad strike is Trump’s fault. The gas prices are Trump’s fault. The Iran war is Trump’s fault.

Virginia McIntyre:
It is ridiculous. It is childish. We should not fall into the trap of pointing fingers as well.

The problem is that both sides of the aisle are too busy distracting voters with their own personal arguments with each other. They do not actually bring that into their private lives because you will see the same politicians who say awful things about each other going to events and being cordial, while telling you that you should be screaming at your family members and avoiding family events because of political discussion.

They are not leading by example on this.

Peter Vazquez:
Virginia, I am going to switch topics quickly because I want your opinion on something your opponent said. He condemned the local project for federal immigration cells or a holding center here. He said the federal government ignored the community, dodged basic questions, and decided to move forward with the project anyway.

Do you have a quick response?

Virginia McIntyre:
Peter, I am focusing right now on what I called in about, which is giving relief to American families.

I am not going to make any statement about what is happening in Rochester right now without knowing all the facts. What my opponent has commented on involved divisive comments about rumors. Until we know what is actually going on, I am not going to engage in that. That would surprise our community more and place blame on different people.

That is not what I called in about today. I called in about the gas tax, which is something everyone on both sides of the aisle can agree on.

Peter Vazquez:
Virginia McIntyre, ladies and gentlemen, candidate for the 25th Congressional District. What is your website?

Virginia McIntyre:
VirginiaMcIntyreForCongress.com.

Peter Vazquez:
Thank you so much for your time today, Virginia. I look forward to having you on for a longer conversation.

Caller: Gary Stout

Bob Savage:
We have Gary on the line. Gary Stout.

Peter Vazquez:
Gary, executive producer of the Second Amendment Show. How are you, buddy?

Gary Stout:
Great. Hi, Bob. How are you doing?

Bob Savage:
I am well.

Gary Stout:
While you were talking about the Police Accountability Board, I was thinking those initials could also stand for Parent Accountability Board.

Maybe their time would be better served if they called in the parents of anybody who steals more than four cars a month and is under 18, then had a conference with them and gave them tips on parenting and controlling their kids so they do not terrorize the neighborhood.

This has become a serious problem with these car thefts. They turn them loose, and later you see guys get caught for a shooting who also have three warrants for car theft.

Peter Vazquez:
Gary, check this out. Rochester City Council approved $235,000 to appeal the ruling saying the PAB does not have any teeth. They have all these meetings. One is May 28, another is June 10 in the evening at different community centers.

Their vice chair, Lwam Tecleab, said the Police Accountability Board is always interested in educating the public and ensuring they are there whenever the public needs to report police misconduct.

Gary Stout:
I like the Parent Accountability Board concept better.

That would be more effective because as long as you keep putting these kids back on the street and do not give them guidance on how to behave in a civilized society, we will not have a civilized society.

I understand some parents are overworked. Some mothers have three jobs trying to support their kids. But that is not usually where the troublemakers come from. Those come from generational welfare families because they are not accountable to anybody for anything, and all they worry about is that they were not given enough.

It has poisoned a whole age group of people who think they can do whatever they want and that it does not matter.

Peter Vazquez:
Gary, I want your assessment on another topic. In the last few minutes, I had several candidates on talking about the gas tax in New York State and federally. As a citizen of New York State, where do you stand on that in about 10 seconds?

Gary Stout:
Lower all our costs: taxes, gas taxes, property taxes, income taxes. If they cut out all the waste, fraud, and theft of people entrenched in deep-state politics, we could live affordable lives again.

Peter Vazquez:
Gary Stout, Second Amendment Show. Ladies and gentlemen, be a leader. Be a leader. Be a leader. God bless these United States of America. And do not let a second go by where you are not a voice for liberty.